From babel-list-owner Mon Oct 31 23:57:46 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jA17vkus027615 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 23:57:46 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id jA17vk4q027614 for babel-list-obscured; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 23:57:46 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from imo-m16.mx.aol.com (imo-m16.mx.aol.com [64.12.138.206]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jA17vjpj027608 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 23:57:45 -0800 Received: from Oligodendroglia by imo-m16.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r6.3.) id m.88.31de76b2 (4552) for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 02:57:36 -0500 (EST) From: Oligodendroglia Message-ID: <88.31de76b2.309879f0> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 02:57:36 EST Subject: radio ethiopia To: babel-list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5119 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ just listened to radio ethiopia on cd all the way through... what an incredible record... from... ooooooooouuuuuuuuuu... ask the ain-jels.... who they're callin' to... deep in the heart of my brain is a lever.... yikes... the rest reminds me of Linda Blair in the Exorcist.... hmmmm... 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From babel-list-owner Tue Nov 1 11:51:11 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jA1JpBxn015991 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 11:51:11 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id jA1JpBUN015990 for babel-list-obscured; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 11:51:11 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from web51415.mail.yahoo.com (web51415.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.39.156]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with SMTP id jA1JpAOp015977 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 11:51:10 -0800 Received: (qmail 81293 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Nov 2005 19:51:08 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=tM8DY8UUfsVUfJ+cw2y8GCFD41zmoNiKylLL1ICrrUrf8P3KdgLGEaR+DhrDcECyZee+GHCSzIa4PkjVXYk0eTfwLVv/x1flv+Tgy4dVp8R52e3CgW7WG7wixAcX3FQ9OzSoJMoJ3zeVwec47D7wP65aa139jKK8ujDVwRGN/4Q= ; Message-ID: <20051101195108.81291.qmail> Received: from [209.247.61.198] by web51415.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 01 Nov 2005 11:51:07 PST Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 11:51:07 -0800 (PST) From: M Fries Subject: John Cale npc To: "Babel-List" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Saturday November 12th 8p.m. St. Ann's Warehouse 28 Waters St, Brooklyn NY Tickets $27.50 available through ticketweb.com, 718-254-8779, and Other Music 15 E 4th St NYC 212-477-8150 __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com From babel-list-owner Tue Nov 1 17:19:06 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jA21J6Wo005193 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 17:19:06 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id jA21J6l4005192 for babel-list-obscured; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 17:19:06 -0800 Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 17:19:06 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f From: "Booksmith" To: babel-list Subject: Patti Smith / Lenny Kaye author event Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ poet-rocker PATTI SMITH & music writer LENNY KAYE *** reading & book signing for "Auguries of Innocence" and "You Call It Madness: The Sensuous Song of the Croon" Sunday, November 13, 2005 at 7 pm --- Join poet-rocker Patti Smith and music writer Lenny Kaye for a special event celebrating music and the written word. Patti Smith will read from "Auguries of Innocence," her first book of poems in more than a decade. Lenny Kaye will discuss his acclaimed study of Russ Columbo and other early singers, "You Call It Madness: The Sensuous Song of the Croon." A booksigning will follow. *** This Booksmith sponsored event will take place at the All Saints Church (1350 Waller) in San Francisco. This is a ticketed event. Tickets are FREE with purchase of a Patti Smith or Lenny Kaye book from The Booksmith. Books may be purchased at our store prior to the event, or at All Saints Church on the day of the event. Doors open and books go on sale starting at 5:30 pm on the day of the event. For further information, call 415-863-8688 or visit www.booksmith.com /// If you can't attend an event and would like to purchase an autographed book, please telephone or email the Booksmith. Also coming up . . . . legendary rock music photographer MICK ROCK talk, slide show & book signing Monday, November 21, 2005 at 7 pm --- Mick Rock has become as important in defining the images of punks and glam rockers as his subjects were in making music history. Join us for a very special evening with the legendary rock music photographer as we celebrate the publication of "Raw Power: Iggy and the Stooges" and "Moonage Daydream: The Life & Times of Ziggy Stardust." Photographer Mick Rock is responsible for some of the most iconic images in rock music history - including those of David Bowie's Ziggy Stardust period. Rock also shot album covers for Syd Barrett, Lou Reed, Queen, The Ramones and Joan Jett. He was also the chief photographer on the films "The Rocky Horror Picture Show" and "Hedwig and the Angry Inch," and produced and directed Bowie's early music videos. From babel-list-owner Tue Nov 1 19:44:50 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jA23ioPY008787 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 19:44:50 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id jA23ioda008786 for babel-list-obscured; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 19:44:50 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from mail.planetc.com (scanner-2.planetc.com [207.65.96.16]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jA23ikIB008777; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 19:44:47 -0800 Received: from [207.65.110.52] (unverified [207.65.110.52]) by mail.planetc.com (SurgeMail 3.6f3) with ESMTP id 13127014 for multiple; Tue, 01 Nov 2005 22:44:32 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) To: babel-list, babel-digest , eternalcafe Moderator Message-Id: <61206575-4B53-11DA-8583-0003938EB042> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: mckenzie Subject: Fwd: Patti at Tower w 4th street next tues 7:00p.m Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 22:47:24 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com r=1280488008 X-SpamDetect: : 0.000000 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 547, in=3451, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 207.65.110.52 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Begin forwarded message: > From: CSCharas > Date: November 1, 2005 10:28:11 PM EST > To: mckenzie > Subject: Patti at Tower w 4th street next tues 7:00p.m > > > Oh & the Voice shows that she is doing an in-store next tues. at Tower > downtown with a Q&A an acoustic set & a signing at the end, who ever > buys the cd get a limited Horses poster as well, space is limited, > they suggest that you get there early! > > C From babel-list-owner Wed Nov 2 01:38:17 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jA29cHwB017125 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2005 01:38:17 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id jA29cHZN017124 for babel-list-obscured; Wed, 2 Nov 2005 01:38:17 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.199]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jA29cE5x017119 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2005 01:38:16 -0800 Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id h27so152276wxd for ; Wed, 02 Nov 2005 01:38:14 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=d9EL+HTThIk53mAkEEandngO9osQZoesTYaIThSGmSkBmKIALqyp4NMGi57qvHK0I4/i1b3AIQS3zXZE43EMSnBj6DBGHhQCcyg1MWulRWafNbpvW1JU5udqmP00l1T1Qb1UQctXmhGPISbXUtsda8HS0fSBGdzXfYcohbLGNaI= Received: by 10.65.236.12 with SMTP id n12mr1791648qbr; Wed, 02 Nov 2005 01:38:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.224.17 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Nov 2005 01:38:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 09:38:14 +0000 From: Andrew F Wilson To: babel-list Subject: Jazz Workshop, Boston MA, 9 January 1976 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by penguin.postmodern.com id jA29cG5x017120 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ A complete recording of of the FM broadcast on WBCN of the Patti Smith Group concert at the Jazz Workshop, Boston MA, 9 January 1976 is now being torrented at Dime-a-Dozen. http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=66792 This definately one to pick up. If you already have the 'short' version that has circulated for several years, you will still want to get this 'complete' version. Setlist: We're Gonna Have a Real Good Time Together, Privilege (Set Me Free), Georges Franju/Ain't it Strange, Kimberly, Redondo Beach, Free Money, Pale Blue Eyes/Louie Louie, Pumping (My Heart), Child of Paradise, Birdland, Mafia, Land, Time Is on My Side, Gloria, My Generation Kind regards Andrew From babel-list-owner Wed Nov 2 15:44:36 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jA2NiaLi007365 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2005 15:44:36 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id jA2NiaTK007364 for babel-list-obscured; Wed, 2 Nov 2005 15:44:36 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from mrqout2.tiscali.it (mrqout2.tiscali.it [195.130.225.12]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jA2NiX98007359 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2005 15:44:35 -0800 Received: from 10.39.115.26 by mrq-2 with esmtp (Exim) id 1EXSHJ-0000Li-Fd; Thu, 03 Nov 2005 00:44:27 +0100 Received: from [80.182.54.149] by mail-6.tiscali.it with HTTP; Thu, 3 Nov 2005 00:44:24 +0100 Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 00:44:24 +0100 Message-ID: <43621AF80000EE9C> From: carso58 Subject: Patti Live on Italian TV Show To: babel-list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by penguin.postmodern.com id jA2NiZ98007360 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Hi everybody ! for those who can see Italian TV "RAI 1" channel via satellite, tomorrow evening ( november 3 starting at 9 pm italian time) Patti will perform on program "ROCKPOLITIK". peace Paolo __________________________________________________________________ Accesso Internet Gratis per utenti Excite! 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Sfoglia gli annunci e trova la tua anima gemella http://www.excite.it/relazioni From babel-list-owner Wed Nov 2 19:14:05 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jA33E3BR012130 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2005 19:14:04 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id jA33E24t012129 for babel-list-obscured; Wed, 2 Nov 2005 19:14:02 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.202]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jA33DwEE012123 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2005 19:14:00 -0800 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id l1so119704nzf for ; Wed, 02 Nov 2005 19:13:56 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=SgGf0Z9PrnxpdHBOrJIxr/qW2FStzBQ2WRQSlsZ5TdRq8JkrbGiZ4bKQiXTnx+uOUgjofXI4zR4WUr+p55mdDwNhaI3f8lQqoMYvFhjdQAmNbHpe/TGiXaTuwL+yrKUsqHO72XERMWlWOyZvcHvezKkwTezC88Ekj+e3XSGmDJU= Received: by 10.65.204.4 with SMTP id g4mr238606qbq; Wed, 02 Nov 2005 19:13:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.224.17 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Nov 2005 19:13:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 03:13:56 +0000 From: Andrew F Wilson To: babel-list Subject: Re: Patti On Conan In-Reply-To: <007101c5db0a$eef7cba0$fb0bb743> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 References: <20051021175535.8390.qmail> <007101c5db0a$eef7cba0$fb0bb743> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by penguin.postmodern.com id jA33E1EE012125 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Apparently Neil Young is on Late Night with Conan O'Brien each night this week. But Patti is on next week, Wednesday, 9 November 2005. I suppose she'll sing a song from Horses. Kind regards Andrew From babel-list-owner Thu Nov 3 14:57:11 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jA3MvA81022247 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2005 14:57:11 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id jA3MvAQR022246 for babel-list-obscured; Thu, 3 Nov 2005 14:57:10 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from web36203.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web36203.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.68.229]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with SMTP id jA3Mv8Hr022240 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2005 14:57:08 -0800 Received: (qmail 18374 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Nov 2005 22:57:02 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=WE8uTOZ3GUyzO6f7SlHdARNPDrXeY0y0d4jsmJTCY9VFsOFoNJm/WmLlCU7eGpEr2y1AdlZlYypBmJVvScvRuCXOaq4lnw3/nPI0idCZRBy2A42j3elDyf7I4pznhR9mczTVndr8w5I0Ug5LRTsD8Bi0EJrfCuRRzQsV+uwDKMo= ; Message-ID: <20051103225702.18372.qmail> Received: from [67.150.57.154] by web36203.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 03 Nov 2005 14:57:02 PST Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 14:57:02 -0800 (PST) From: L French Subject: Patti Smith adds two San Francisco appearances To: Babel- List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ PATTI SMITH ADDS TWO SAN FRANCISCO APPEARANCES After selling out her November 14th acoustic show celebrating the 30th Anniversary of Horses at the Great American Music Hall, Patti Smith has added two additional San Francisco appearances for Sunday November 13th. At 7:00pm Patti Smith and Lenny Kaye will appear at All Saints Church in the Haight-Asbury for a poetry reading and acoustic set that will be followed by a book-signing for Pattis beautiful new volume of poetry, Auguries of Innocence. That same evening at 9:30pm Patti will travel cross-town to do a benefit poetry reading at the Victoria Theater in the Mission district to benefit the Poetry Center at San Francisco State University. _________________________________________ Sunday November 13  9:30 pm The Victoria Theatre 2961 16th Street (at Mission), San Francisco Tickets: $25, general seating www.victoriatheatre.org ticket information: 415-863-7576. Proceeds from this special performance will benefit the Poetry Center, which celebrated its 50th anniversary in 2004, and since 1954 has presented many of the great poets in public performance of their works, including William Carlos Williams, Langston Hughes, and many of the earliest recordings by the Beats and San Francisco Renaissance poets. ________________________________________________ Sunday November 13  7:00 pm All Saints Church 1350 Waller Street (at Masonic), San Francisco This is a ticketed event. Tickets are free with the purchase of a Patti Smith or Lenny Kaye book from The Booksmith. Books may be purchased at our store prior to the event, or at All Saints Church on the day of the event. Doors open and books go on sale starting at 5:30 pm on the day of the _____________________________________________ AUGERIES OF INNOCENE REVIEWED Ecco Press, New York. Hardcover. 80 pp To see a world in a grain of sand And a heaven in a wild flower, Hold infinity in the palm of your hand And eternity in an hour. William Blake Patti Smith's latest book is a masterful culmination of all her poetic work to date, drawing as it does on her long and varied influences, including Arthur Rimbaud, Joan of Arc, Pablo Picasso, Virginia Woolf and of course, William Blake, whose famed poem Auguries of Innocence, has been borrowed as the title of this superb collection. It is Blake, the visionary British artist whose influence is most pronounced on the 26 poems included here, but especially on "Worthy the Lamb Slain for Us," which directly addresses Blake's poem "The Lamb." Here, Ms. Smith gives Blake's innocence an edge of modern day horror, relating it to modern man's cruelty, as demonstrated by this passage: "And he, a governed soul, broad shouldered with eyes like Blake, lamented who bred thee, nursed thee on mead and flowers, as he ripped her apart." Obviously, for readers expecting a kinder gentler Patti Smith, it's best to be forewarned, as this book, despite its title, is no collection of innocent auguries or vapid verses. Indeed, Smith gives us a vision of atrocities and horror which might give even the most seasoned reader a reason to stand up and shout against the fear and madness that seem to have descended on today's world like a biblical plague of locusts. Smith addresses global injustices, animal extinction, death, sorrow and loss, and does it all with the voice of a true seer. As Blake did, Smith contrasts the inherent innocence of children against the unholy terrors of their exploitation, whether as in Blake's time, by taking children and turning them into mistreated laborers, or as is done today, by stripping away their innocence away through various forms of mass media, an even more insidious method, since it can happen so subtly, a child or parent may never even notice it occurring. Several of the poems are vivid and horrific reminders of what the so-called civilized leaders of this planet have done in the name of peace and progress during the last century. Namely, bombing innocent men, women and children who have no connection to the political agenda's or visions of grandeur espoused by their misguided leaders. Three separate poems address specific bombings, including George Bush's bombing of Baghdad, Iraq, Ronald Reagan's bombing of Benghazi, Libya and Adolph Hitler's bombing of Guernica, Spain. And ironically, Smith is able to transmute the horrors of modern warfare into a truly touching and beautiful artistic vision, as in the lengthy poem, "Birds of Iraq" where Patti speaks about the supposed sanity of America's launching a preemptive strike on Iraq, by contrasting it with the madness and hallucinations of Virginia Woolf, whose loss of control over her own life, ultimately resulted in her tragic suicide. Likewise Pablo Picasso's outrage over the bombing of the Basque village of Guernica resulted in that artist's masterpiece, and Ms. Smith imagines the horrors of the that fateful Spanish day in 1937 without flinching: "...She crawled with one shoe the other foot gone a trail sticky and warm... dripping blood from the wounds of Spain." In short Auguries Of Innocence is a not to be missed experience, an exquisite gift for poetry lovers everywhere. ___________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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Visit http://help.kodakgallery.com. ------------------------------------------------ EASYSHARE Gallery Customer Service http://help.kodakgallery.com/support Phone: (800) 360-9098 Outside the US and Canada: (512) 651-9770 ------------------------------------------------ If you cannot see the links above, copy and paste the following URL directly into your browser: http://www.kodakgallery.com/I.jsp?c=44cyxbbl.6gitc5o5&x=0&y=-ge3ykz From babel-list-owner Fri Nov 4 13:01:02 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jA4L0xPm000305 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 13:01:02 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id jA4L0w6a000303 for babel-list-obscured; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 13:00:58 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from mail.planetc.com (mail.planetc.com [207.65.96.16]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jA4L0WXa032748; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 13:00:34 -0800 Received: from [207.65.110.36] (unverified [207.65.110.36]) by mail.planetc.com (SurgeMail 3.6f3) with ESMTP id 13405036 for multiple; Fri, 04 Nov 2005 16:00:23 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) To: babel-list, babel-digest , eternalcafe Moderator Message-Id: <7017A863-4D76-11DA-ACC1-0003938EB042> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: mckenzie Subject: Fwd: *****SPAM*****Patti Smith to Appear at Tower Records in NYC on November 8 Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 16:03:24 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com r=1280488008 X-SpamDetect: : 0.000000 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 549, in=3018, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 207.65.110.36 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/mixed by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was multipart/alternative Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Begin forwarded message: > From: "pattismith.net" > Date: November 4, 2005 3:28:33 PM EST > To: mckenzie > Subject: *****SPAM*****Patti Smith to Appear at Tower Records in NYC > on November 8 > Reply-To: pattismith [demime 1.01a removed an attachment of type image/tiff which had a name of image.tiff] > Patti Smith will appear at the downtown NYC Tower Records at 4th and > Broadway on Tuesday, November 8, at 7 p.m., to commemorate the release > of Horses/Horses. > > Arrive early--space is limited. This exclusive event with Patti > Smith, Lenny Kaye, Jay Dee Daugherty and Tony Shanahan will include a > Q&A, spoken word and some acoustic songs. Following the performance, > Patti Smith and the band will be signing copies of Horses/Horses, the > 2-CD 30th anniversary edition of the classic Horses album. Each > purchase will also include a free, limited edition Horses/Horses > poster. > > November 2005 marks the 30th anniversary of the release of Patti > Smith's debut album, Horses, a groundbreaking rock & roll masterpiece > which continues its unparalleled influence on rock music, style and > culture. Arista/Columbia/Legacy Recordings will celebrate this musical > milestone with the release of Horses/Horses, a two-disc Legacy Special > Edition of Patti Smith's debut album, on Tuesday, November 8. > > Disc One of Horses/Horses features the original album, in its > entirety, along with the bonus track, Patti's interpretation of the > Who's classic "My Generation." Initially released as the B-side to > "Gloria," the first single from Horses, in 1975, "My Generation" > features John Cale, the album's producer, on bass. The Legacy Special > Edition of Horses has been remastered by Greg Calbi producing superior > sound to previous editions of the album. > > The second disc of Horses/Horses showcases Patti Smith and her > Band--Lenny Kaye (guitar), Jay Dee Daugherty (drums), Tony Shanahan > (bass), Tom Verlaine (guitar) and featuring Flea from the Red Hot > Chili Peppers--performing the complete Horses album live, with a "My > Generation" encore, at the Royal Festival Hall in London on June 25, > 2005. This historic performance of Horses was the culminating concert > at the 2005 Meltdown Festival, which was curated by Patti Smith. > (Lenny Kaye and Jay Dee Daugherty were both members of the ensemble > that played on the original Horses while Tom Verlaine was a guest > artist on the 1975 album). > > Horses/Horses comes packaged with a deluxe booklet featuring rare > archival photographs, ephemera, lyrics and documentation of the 2005 > concert as well as Paul Williams' provocative essay on "Gloria." [demime 1.01a removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of columbia.gif] [demime 1.01a removed an attachment of type image/tiff which had a name of image.tiff] > COLUMBIA and the Columbia "Walking Eye" logo are registered trademarks > of Sony BMG Music Entertainment. > Copyright ) 2004 Sony BMG Music Entertainment. 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Why did you put that there?!!! That's not got much SPAM in it! ??????? -Glenna ----- Original Message ----- From: mckenzie To: babel-list ; babel-digest ; eternalcafe Moderator Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 1:03 PM Subject: Fwd: *****SPAM*****Patti Smith to Appear at Tower Records in NYC on November 8 Begin forwarded message: > From: "pattismith.net" > Date: November 4, 2005 3:28:33 PM EST > To: mckenzie > Subject: *****SPAM*****Patti Smith to Appear at Tower Records in NYC > on November 8 > Reply-To: pattismith [demime 1.01a removed an attachment of type image/tiff which had a name of image.tiff] > Patti Smith will appear at the downtown NYC Tower Records at 4th and > Broadway on Tuesday, November 8, at 7 p.m., to commemorate the release > of Horses/Horses. > > Arrive early--space is limited. This exclusive event with Patti > Smith, Lenny Kaye, Jay Dee Daugherty and Tony Shanahan will include a > Q&A, spoken word and some acoustic songs. Following the performance, > Patti Smith and the band will be signing copies of Horses/Horses, the > 2-CD 30th anniversary edition of the classic Horses album. Each > purchase will also include a free, limited edition Horses/Horses > poster. > > November 2005 marks the 30th anniversary of the release of Patti > Smith's debut album, Horses, a groundbreaking rock & roll masterpiece > which continues its unparalleled influence on rock music, style and > culture. Arista/Columbia/Legacy Recordings will celebrate this musical > milestone with the release of Horses/Horses, a two-disc Legacy Special > Edition of Patti Smith's debut album, on Tuesday, November 8. > > Disc One of Horses/Horses features the original album, in its > entirety, along with the bonus track, Patti's interpretation of the > Who's classic "My Generation." Initially released as the B-side to > "Gloria," the first single from Horses, in 1975, "My Generation" > features John Cale, the album's producer, on bass. The Legacy Special > Edition of Horses has been remastered by Greg Calbi producing superior > sound to previous editions of the album. > > The second disc of Horses/Horses showcases Patti Smith and her > Band--Lenny Kaye (guitar), Jay Dee Daugherty (drums), Tony Shanahan > (bass), Tom Verlaine (guitar) and featuring Flea from the Red Hot > Chili Peppers--performing the complete Horses album live, with a "My > Generation" encore, at the Royal Festival Hall in London on June 25, > 2005. This historic performance of Horses was the culminating concert > at the 2005 Meltdown Festival, which was curated by Patti Smith. > (Lenny Kaye and Jay Dee Daugherty were both members of the ensemble > that played on the original Horses while Tom Verlaine was a guest > artist on the 1975 album). > > Horses/Horses comes packaged with a deluxe booklet featuring rare > archival photographs, ephemera, lyrics and documentation of the 2005 > concert as well as Paul Williams' provocative essay on "Gloria." [demime 1.01a removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of columbia.gif] [demime 1.01a removed an attachment of type image/tiff which had a name of image.tiff] > COLUMBIA and the Columbia "Walking Eye" logo are registered trademarks > of Sony BMG Music Entertainment. > Copyright ) 2004 Sony BMG Music Entertainment. All rights reserved. > > This email was sent to mckenzie > > Replying to this email will not remove you from the mailing list. > Click here if you no longer wish to receive this mailing. > Read our privacy policy. > > > This email was sent by: > SMOS | 550 Madison Avenue 24th Floor | New York, NY 10022 From babel-list-owner Fri Nov 4 18:06:52 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jA526p9Q010027 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 18:06:52 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id jA526ptV010022 for babel-list-obscured; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 18:06:51 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from mail3.panix.com (mail3.panix.com [166.84.1.74]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jA526mGo010008 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 18:06:48 -0800 Received: from panix2.panix.com (panix2.panix.com [166.84.1.2]) by mail3.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC53C13A87D for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 21:06:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (smoot) by panix2.panix.com (8.11.6p3/8.8.8/PanixN1.1) with ESMTP id jA526hY17225 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 21:06:43 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 21:06:43 -0500 (EST) From: smoot cc: babel-list Subject: Re: DRM this, Sony! - CNET.com In-Reply-To: <013001c5e17a$93dea970$6401a8c0> Message-ID: References: <013001c5e17a$93dea970$6401a8c0> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ WFMU's blog has had a couple of interesting items (with links to other sources) on this. Check out: http://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/2005/11/sony_cds_caught.html and http://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/copyleft/index.html Rebecca On Fri, 4 Nov 2005, John Lettiere wrote: > http://www.cnet.com/4520-6033_1-6376177.html?tag=nl.e501 > > JL > > "There's only two kinds of music... The Blues and Zip-a-dee-doo-dah." - > Townes Van Zandt From babel-list-owner Sun Nov 6 09:55:19 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jA6HtIYt016883 for ; Sun, 6 Nov 2005 09:55:19 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id jA6HtIrl016882 for babel-list-obscured; Sun, 6 Nov 2005 09:55:18 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jA6HtHBa016876 for ; Sun, 6 Nov 2005 09:55:17 -0800 Received: from hppav (c-67-183-11-251.hsd1.wa.comcast.net[67.183.11.251]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2005110617545401100mhqdve>; Sun, 6 Nov 2005 17:55:00 +0000 Message-ID: <000d01c5e2fb$45bfe600$fb0bb743> From: "PageRox" To: "Babel" Subject: Fw: Patti Smith to Appear at Tower Records in NYC on November 8 Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2005 09:52:05 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Thought you guys (if you haven't already!) would like this. Too bad I'm not even CLOSE to NY! C'est la vie, run out there and see! (arrgh...!) XO-Glenna ----- Original Message ----- From: pattismith.net To: pagerox93 Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 12:31 PM Subject: Patti Smith to Appear at Tower Records in NYC on November 8 Patti Smith will appear at the downtown NYC Tower Records at 4th and Broadway on Tuesday, November 8, at 7 p.m., to commemorate the release of Horses/Horses. Arrive early--space is limited. This exclusive event with Patti Smith, Lenny Kaye, Jay Dee Daugherty and Tony Shanahan will include a Q&A, spoken word and some acoustic songs. Following the performance, Patti Smith and the band will be signing copies of Horses/Horses, the 2-CD 30th anniversary edition of the classic Horses album. Each purchase will also include a free, limited edition Horses/Horses poster. November 2005 marks the 30th anniversary of the release of Patti Smith's debut album, Horses, a groundbreaking rock & roll masterpiece which continues its unparalleled influence on rock music, style and culture. Arista/Columbia/Legacy Recordings will celebrate this musical milestone with the release of Horses/Horses, a two-disc Legacy Special Edition of Patti Smith's debut album, on Tuesday, November 8. Disc One of Horses/Horses features the original album, in its entirety, along with the bonus track, Patti's interpretation of the Who's classic "My Generation." Initially released as the B-side to "Gloria," the first single from Horses, in 1975, "My Generation" features John Cale, the album's producer, on bass. The Legacy Special Edition of Horses has been remastered by Greg Calbi producing superior sound to previous editions of the album. The second disc of Horses/Horses showcases Patti Smith and her Band--Lenny Kaye (guitar), Jay Dee Daugherty (drums), Tony Shanahan (bass), Tom Verlaine (guitar) and featuring Flea from the Red Hot Chili Peppers--performing the complete Horses album live, with a "My Generation" encore, at the Royal Festival Hall in London on June 25, 2005. This historic performance of Horses was the culminating concert at the 2005 Meltdown Festival, which was curated by Patti Smith. (Lenny Kaye and Jay Dee Daugherty were both members of the ensemble that played on the original Horses while Tom Verlaine was a guest artist on the 1975 album). Horses/Horses comes packaged with a deluxe booklet featuring rare archival photographs, ephemera, lyrics and documentation of the 2005 concert as well as Paul Williams' provocative essay on "Gloria." ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- COLUMBIA and the Columbia "Walking Eye" logo are registered trademarks of Sony BMG Music Entertainment. Copyright ) 2004 Sony BMG Music Entertainment. All rights reserved. This email was sent to pagerox93 Replying to this email will not remove you from the mailing list. Click here if you no longer wish to receive this mailing. Read our privacy policy. This email was sent by: SMOS | 550 Madison Avenue 24th Floor | New York, NY 10022 From babel-list-owner Sun Nov 6 11:10:50 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jA6JAoJv018988 for ; Sun, 6 Nov 2005 11:10:50 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id jA6JAoce018987 for babel-list-obscured; Sun, 6 Nov 2005 11:10:50 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from web30201.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30201.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.84]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with SMTP id jA6JAmJI018980 for ; Sun, 6 Nov 2005 11:10:49 -0800 Received: (qmail 98588 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Nov 2005 19:10:43 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=FL5e7w4VD5X0/GKHBUiDG8JT8ESyuASgTHxUwNOSymPRpk2UrIAVzTwWogConT6U51YeCUyugOsbkOd/5E75ZFAHIHaXB3PBSSzWtBrI7Z5qiGY75siKVf5cL8HOE/lrwe+GMr4KBD2AYX93neZyqL+72dH1A03OW8Uf+wwj6Xg= ; Message-ID: <20051106191043.98586.qmail> Received: from [63.16.168.176] by web30201.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 06 Nov 2005 11:10:43 PST Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2005 11:10:43 -0800 (PST) From: CBM Subject: Nov 15 Troubador Los Angeles - need ticket To: Babelogue MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ If you have a lead to a way to get a ticket for the November 15 Troubador event, please e-mail me off list. I'm hoping karma will pay off as I've helped many to attend Patti events in the past. Most grateful, Chelsea gadismanis1 --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. From babel-list-owner Sun Nov 6 12:11:50 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jA6KBo4O020378 for ; Sun, 6 Nov 2005 12:11:50 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id jA6KBoD8020377 for babel-list-obscured; Sun, 6 Nov 2005 12:11:50 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jA6KBn3Z020370 for ; Sun, 6 Nov 2005 12:11:49 -0800 Received: from xyz (c-67-180-29-142.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[67.180.29.142]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <20051106201145015006g5aje>; Sun, 6 Nov 2005 20:11:45 +0000 From: "J" To: Subject: Ticket for Patti/Lenny in SF Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2005 12:11:48 -0800 Message-ID: <000301c5e30e$51d24830$8e1db443> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ I have one extra ticket available for Patti and Lenny at the Great American Music Hall on Monday Nov 14. Cost is $30. Send me an e-mail off-list if you're interested. Ticket is will call so we'll have to meet up the evening of the show. J From babel-list-owner Sun Nov 6 19:12:16 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jA73CFLo031310 for ; Sun, 6 Nov 2005 19:12:15 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id jA73CFlR031309 for babel-list-obscured; Sun, 6 Nov 2005 19:12:15 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from web33315.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33315.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.130]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with SMTP id jA73CEdg031299 for ; Sun, 6 Nov 2005 19:12:14 -0800 Received: (qmail 75286 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Nov 2005 03:12:10 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=O5TpVN/ElE5Xmc/UshiFIJYnoUu34WvC1qIYWBH31Iu4kS3ZTxzzguGN6T6mB30ZWKAhpqkkg950fZPWKzIuHxWjJHPhrRN0KYz7N7pzQ9FZKPpWnHvi0mFmdIJ/E4mx54urMyK2szk0HMdxdIwTG+RYmWtgnWnrTm0NZ8Cfd2s= ; Message-ID: <20051107031210.75284.qmail> Received: from [24.5.197.252] by web33315.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 06 Nov 2005 19:12:10 PST Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2005 19:12:10 -0800 (PST) From: skywalker Subject: live officially released material To: babel-list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ is there a listing of live Patti material which has been officially released? (I'm planning to seed some live Patti shows on Dimeadozen, so I'll need to remove tracks which were officially released, everything even if OOP (which I think includes promos).) thanks in advance! __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com From babel-list-owner Mon Nov 7 04:38:41 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jA7Ccdg7013264 for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 04:38:41 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id jA7Ccdax013263 for babel-list-obscured; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 04:38:39 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.205]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jA7Ccbsb013255 for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 04:38:37 -0800 Received: from gowron (ool-44c69c38.dyn.optonline.net [68.198.156.56]) by mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.03 (built Sep 22 2005)) with SMTP id <0IPL00FX94G999J2> for babel-list; Mon, 07 Nov 2005 07:38:34 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 07:38:36 -0500 From: John Lettiere Subject: Fw: ANOTHER Redondo Beach tragedy!!! To: babel-list Message-id: <009001c5e398$2c1a6a70$6401a8c0> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/related by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was multipart/alternative Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ John Lettiere GM JL Computer Services & Consulting. http://perfcomp.homestead.com/Prefcomp2.html You Don't Need A Weatherman To Know Which Way The Wind Blows.....Bob Dylan. Subject: ANOTHER Redondo Beach tragedy!!! Drug-sniffing dog dies in California after cocaine encounter ASSOCIATED PRESS 9:48 p.m. November 4, 2005 REDONDO BEACH b Basko took a bite out of crime b but it cost him his life. The 5-year-old drug-sniffing German shepherd died Friday after he bit into a bag of cocaine during an annual certification search in Riverside County, according to Sgt. Jim Banach with the Redondo Beach Police Department. Basko had successfully completed the search and was in his partner's car for the ride home when he had a seizure. The partner, Officer Ken Greenleaf, rushed Basko to a nearby animal clinic, where the dog died before he could be treated, Banach said. Basko had been with the Police Department for four years, helping to apprehend suspects, including one wanted for murder, and assisting in the recovery of narcotics. A memorial service was pending. ======================================================= BAD Basko!!! I ask you---Does any happiness ever come from REDONDO BEACH? Redondo Beach - Patti Smith Late afternoon, dreaming hotel We just had the quarrel that sent you away. I was looking for you, are you gone gone ? Called you on the phone, another dimension. Well, you never returned, oh you know what I mean. I went looking for you, are you gone, gone ? Down by the ocean it was so dismal, Women all standing with a shock on their faces. Sad description, oh I was looking for you. Everyone was singing, girl is washed up On Redondo Beach and everyone is so sad. I was looking for you, are you gone gone ? Pretty little girl, everyone cried. She was the victim of sweet suicide. I went looking for you, are you gone gone ? Down by the ocean it was so dismal, Women all standing with shock on their faces. Sad description, oh I was looking for you. Desk clerk told me girl was washed up, Was small, an angel with apple blonde hair, now. I went looking for you, are you gone gone ? Picked up my key, didn't reply. Went to my room, started to cry. You were small, an angel, are you gone gone ? Down by the ocean it was so dismal. I was just standing with shock on my face. The hearse pulled away, and the girl that had died, it was you. You'll never return into my arms 'cause you were gone gone. Never return into my arms 'cause you were gone gone. Gone gone, gone gone, good-bye. [demime 1.01a removed an attachment of type image/gif] From babel-list-owner Mon Nov 7 12:42:53 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jA7KgpOS027789 for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 12:42:52 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id jA7KgpFY027788 for babel-list-obscured; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 12:42:51 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from mrqout1.tiscali.it (mrqout1-sorbs.tiscali.it [195.130.225.22]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jA7KgmpW027779 for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 12:42:50 -0800 Received: from 10.39.115.24 by mrq-1 with esmtp (Exim) id 1EZDpB-0007RG-DS; Mon, 07 Nov 2005 21:42:42 +0100 Received: from [80.182.54.149] by mail-4.tiscali.it with HTTP; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 21:42:40 +0100 Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 21:42:40 +0100 Message-ID: <43620C9900020822> In-Reply-To: <20051107031210.75284.qmail> From: carso58 Subject: NYC Tower Records Tuesday, November 8,- Help needed To: babel-list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by penguin.postmodern.com id jA7KgopW027784 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Dear N.Y. friends, Patti Smith will appear at the downtown NYC Tower Records at 4th and Broadway on Tuesday, November 8, at 7 p.m., to commemorate the release of Horses/Horses. Following the performance, Patti Smith and the band will be signing copies of Horses/Horses, the 2-CD 30th anniversary edition of the classic Horses album. Each purchase will also include a free, limited edition Horses/Horses poster. Is there someone who can buy for me a signed copy and send it to me in Italy ?? Obviously i will pay all the costs ! I will be eternally grateful ! Please write to me off list. Many thanks peace Paolo __________________________________________________________________ Accesso Internet Gratis per utenti Excite! Attivalo subito! http://www.excite.it/hitech/accesso Il Mio Excite. Personalizza la tua Home page Excite come vuoi tu! http://www.excite.it AAA/Relazioni. Sfoglia gli annunci e trova la tua anima gemella http://www.excite.it/relazioni From babel-list-owner Mon Nov 7 13:49:07 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jA7Ln60s029394 for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 13:49:07 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id jA7Ln6G5029393 for babel-list-obscured; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 13:49:06 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from Front-end2.KRONOS.COM (front-end2.kronos.com [158.228.2.30]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jA7Ln4wd029384 for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 13:49:05 -0800 Received: from exchg-f.KRONOS.COM ([158.228.0.199]) by Front-end2.KRONOS.COM with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 7 Nov 2005 16:48:59 -0500 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: RE: DRM this, Sony! - CNET.com Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 16:48:59 -0500 Message-ID: Thread-Topic: DRM this, Sony! - CNET.com Thread-Index: AcXhsCJN6gFGqkNoReO9j4/4iCGKLQCNKAcw From: "Gart, Mitchell" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Nov 2005 21:48:59.0620 (UTC) FILETIME=[0F73F240:01C5E3E5] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by penguin.postmodern.com id jA7Ln5wd029388 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ I think this is really outrageous, and was thinking about what I could do about it. I wrote letters to Symantec and Sophos, which are two of the companies that have anti-virus software, asking them if they will make their programs protect PCs against this Sony virus. Lots of people have those virus-protection programs on their PCs, so maybe getting protection that way is the best we can do. - Mitch > > On Fri, 4 Nov 2005, John Lettiere wrote: > > > http://www.cnet.com/4520-6033_1-6376177.html?tag=nl.e501 > > > > JL From babel-list-owner Tue Nov 8 10:25:36 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jA8IPZaq030863 for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2005 10:25:36 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id jA8IPZQa030862 for babel-list-obscured; Tue, 8 Nov 2005 10:25:35 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from mail1.panix.com (mail1.panix.com [166.84.1.72]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jA8IPXSN030853 for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2005 10:25:34 -0800 Received: from panix1.panix.com (panix1.panix.com [166.84.1.1]) by mail1.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13F0E5881F for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2005 13:25:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from spamtony) by panix1.panix.com (8.11.6p3/8.8.8/PanixN1.1) id jA8IPYk28380 for babel-list; Tue, 8 Nov 2005 13:25:34 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200511081825.jA8IPYk28380> Subject: Re: DRM this, Sony! - CNET.com Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 13:25:34 -0500 (EST) From: "weapons of mass destruction-related program activities" Cc: babel-list In-Reply-To: Reply-To: spamtony (Anthony J. Rzepela) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5+IMAP PL8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Bought Horses/Horses today (a Sony/BMG release), and disc 2 at least (live "Horses" all the way through, with Lenny, JD, Tony Shanahan, Flea and Tom Verlaine) is a straight-ahead, by the book, audio CD, logo and all. No DRM, no funny stuff. Tragically, it's not in Gracenote's CDDB yet, so until someone successfully submits the song titles, you'll have to type in your own titles when you rip it for your iPod. From babel-list-owner Tue Nov 8 14:37:21 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jA8MbLiA015729 for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2005 14:37:21 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id jA8MbLre015728 for babel-list-obscured; Tue, 8 Nov 2005 14:37:21 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jA8MbIgL015723 for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2005 14:37:20 -0800 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i22so17543wra for ; Tue, 08 Nov 2005 14:37:17 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=OhJ6nGsZDAz4HYpxdgY25AfaXmW1swU5IVKx3+WWhFEI5uZc4z3kvd6IhJz9qa+ixaaycyPgT/chB2Otvkz3lyUJpnls/V/JCdeYx0fyJb6mwnk5Ar2a4kwCd4rVWZkFit9s/5oAtxfM+YMPEuF2VOWVDOC/WMNKjolTzbnIV5g= Received: by 10.65.95.11 with SMTP id x11mr65qbl; Tue, 08 Nov 2005 14:37:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.232.3 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Nov 2005 14:37:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 22:37:16 +0000 From: Andrew F Wilson To: babel-list Subject: Horses/Horses MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by penguin.postmodern.com id jA8MbKgL015724 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ I thought the list would already be buzzing with folk listening to the new album. Perhaps the time difference has given us Europeans an advantage today. First impressions are that the packaging looks great, nothing tawdry or irritating. I might quibble with some details - the original sleeve notes are included, but not Patti's signature - Land: gets a colon, but Gloria doesn't - the reprise of Gloria on disc two isn't mentioned - the track lists on the cover, the discs and the booklet don't match - the recording date of the 1976 My Generation is missed off. Still looks good though. My ears aren't sharp enough to say how the sound of this remaster differs from the LP and the two previous versions. I'll believe it if they tell me it's better. The live disc sounds great - missing some chatter and so on, but a great performance and completely real. If I listen carefully I should be able to hear myself there at the Festival Hall, clapping in a reserved English way, and smiling for all I'm worth. Okay, you've already got a copy of Horses - maybe two. Do you need another one? You most certainly do! Kind regards Andrew From babel-list-owner Tue Nov 8 17:04:37 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jA914ZSG018958 for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2005 17:04:37 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id jA914YGD018957 for babel-list-obscured; Tue, 8 Nov 2005 17:04:34 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from imo-m27.mx.aol.com (imo-m27.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.8]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jA914UrG018950 for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2005 17:04:32 -0800 Received: from RknMama51 by imo-m27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r6.3.) id m.12a.68f046e6 (15886) for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2005 20:04:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mblk-d42 (mblk-d42.mblk.aol.com [205.188.212.226]) by air-id08.mx.aol.com (v107.13) with ESMTP id MAILINID81-3e0e43714b10109; Tue, 08 Nov 2005 20:04:16 -0500 Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 20:04:16 -0500 From: rknmama51 Message-Id: <8C7B2E0A3D8F44C-1D00-DD> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-MB-Message-Type: User Received: from 68.173.178.109 by mblk-d42.sysops.aol.com (205.188.212.226) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 08 Nov 2005 20:04:16 -0500 X-Mailer: AOL WebMail 1.1.0.14204 Subject: thanksgiving in amsterdam Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 To: babel-list X-AOL-IP: 205.188.212.226 X-Spam-Flag: NO Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ 18TH CANNABIS CUP NOV. 20-24, 2005 - AMSTERDAM Featuring the induction of John Trudell into the Counterculture Hall of Fame (http://www.johntrudell.com/) Performance by the Patti Smith Group: THURSDAY, NOV. 24 11 PM Patti Smith and Her Band, Melkweg Max. The Bowery Ballroom has Pat McGee listed for 12/29. With a globe trotting November schedule and 2 shows at BAM, anyone heard if the birthday and new years eve shows are happening? hilary From babel-list-owner Tue Nov 8 17:47:51 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jA91lpQh020319 for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2005 17:47:51 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id jA91lpUh020318 for babel-list-obscured; Tue, 8 Nov 2005 17:47:51 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net (mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net [63.231.195.115]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with SMTP id jA91lnWj020313 for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2005 17:47:50 -0800 Received: (qmail 26684 invoked by uid 0); 9 Nov 2005 01:38:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (63.231.195.4) by mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net with QMQP; 9 Nov 2005 01:38:30 -0000 Received: from 70-59-92-66.mpls.qwest.net (HELO roe) (70.59.92.66) by mpls-pop-04.inet.qwest.net with SMTP; 9 Nov 2005 01:47:50 -0000 Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 19:47:52 -0600 Message-ID: <002e01c5e4cf$99350880$0200a8c0> From: "MP" To: babel-list References: Subject: Horses and Sony (may be long, sorry) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ I've been on the list for a while but never posted anything as I'm mostly a reader, but wanted to comment on the following: First off, I just got Horses/Horses, had to go to two stores to find it. My local Best Buy had 3 copies but they had sold out (or they didn't know where they put them, which is the case more often than not). As much as I don't like Best Buy due to them contributing to the destruction of nice little music stores around the area, it is close to my home and it is convenient. I ended up getting it from a local store (which felt much better to buy it from them, though it is a longer drive), for a dollar less than Best Buy even. Well, the CD is very nice, I really liked the packaging and it was worth buying it, even though I already have two other copies of Horses. I really liked what they did with the pictures from then and now. I haven't ripped it to my ipod yet but I will later on tonight. I bought 3 CDs today, Horses, Kate Bush Aerial (her new one) and Eurythmics Ultimate Collection. I examined them at the store before paying for them and examined the latest Santana CD (which I know for sure has that copy protection/root kit/DRM thing). The CDs I bought didn't have that label that states that it runs on Windows etc. etc. so I went ahead and purchased them even thought they were Sony in one way or another. This brings me to this posting. I've been reading a lot about this issue and as much as I want to boycott Sony, it seems to me they have their hands on just about every CD out there. I'm thinking for sure they are going to expand eventually and put that root kit thing in more and more CDs. While I think something should be done about pirating, this really makes it a pain to manage my music. I personally like to make a copy of the songs, being either a compilation CD or just a copy of the CD and archive my original so that it will stay nice for many years, though lately I've been just ripping them to my Ipod, ever since I got an Ipod.. I know for a fact that car CD players and CD changers plus all the taking out and putting back in of a CD can be hard on discs, plus there's the question of if the car gets broken into, the thieves won't get away with the originals. I've been thinking a while about this DRM situation and I'm hoping that we as consumers can do something about it. I believe the whole statement about music companies losing money is false, I know that people who love the music, the fans will buy the CDs by a certain artist they love even if they have it already, like Horses for example, just because it includes a better packaging, a cleaner mix, extra tracks or whatever. I think the DRM is a sham from the big record companies to have even more control over us ( the consumer) than they already do. We need to stop them, though this probably will be very difficult as, like I said before, increasingly it seems there's only one or two companies running the show even though they use different labels. I foresee myself not buying any more CDs no matter who the artist is if this situation doesn't get solved. I don't want to in 5, 10 or 15 years to be reminiscing about the "good ole" days when CDs were not copy protected. I do own about 5500 CDs and I'm a collector, but I can see myself completely stopping my CD buying if I'm going to be restricted in any way on how I can listen to my CDs. We the consumers and the artists need to stop them!!! Hope this makes sense and sorry if it was long, hope some of you got through it. Mauri From babel-list-owner Tue Nov 8 23:38:02 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jA97c27Z029170 for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2005 23:38:02 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id jA97c1r7029166 for babel-list-obscured; Tue, 8 Nov 2005 23:38:01 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from web36206.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web36206.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.68.232]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with SMTP id jA97bxN7029159 for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2005 23:38:00 -0800 Received: (qmail 14516 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Nov 2005 07:37:56 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=g9LEv6RbDWTEZXH024+HOkOOWt5BNYJlrzLhpMtN+03Ix3S3jSUxdMYoecMVExN2XOUttMdkSHDp9GWAqdWy4+g++5QKlycTIIzzC+s8Hizy4fe5xd/mYi6ItbOkeF3e9tN9Ti+Xy9YbYeJ/+nXuUqcG/syQlUrT3Riit3laayE= ; Message-ID: <20051109073756.14514.qmail> Received: from [67.150.60.96] by web36206.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 08 Nov 2005 23:37:56 PST Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 23:37:56 -0800 (PST) From: L French Subject: Re: Horses/Horses To: Babel- List In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ It's nice that the live Horses is coming out on election day here in the USA, as during MY GENERATION Patti pointedly asks how her Generation could have given us George W. Bush. Columbia is really doing Patti justice, issuing her second live album, (after the French double disc of Trampin' on CD). Just consider, after spending nearly 30 years at Arista, Patti never really had a live album on that label, althought the fact that Arista/BMG was brought by Sony is what makes this new Horses edition even possible. As Andrew notes, the deluxe packaging is really a treat, especially after the very simple sleeve that Arista provided for the original Horses Lp. Here we get to see many more Mapplethorpe shots of Patti, and a nice shot of Patti with John Cale taken at Electric Lady studios by RM. It's also nice to finally have the lyrics to all the songs along with the album, even if it took 30 years! As for Patti's live performance and the recording of it -- both are absolutely staggering. As Andrew points out, the live song titles are not completely accurate though, as they leave out any mention of Patti's spoken intro to Break it up, as well as her reprise of Gloria at the end of Horses. Most of Patti's between song chatter has also been removed, but thankfully they have at least left in Patti's saying "side two" before KIMBERLEY. ELEGIE also benefits greatly on the live disc, with the addition of a trumpet solo by Flea that closes the song as Patti recites a list of friends who are no longer with us today... Now, I wonder if Horses / Horses sells well enough, Columbia might be willing to give us anninversary editions of Radio Ethiopia, Easter and Wave over the next three years! Of course, that means Patti would have to do live shows showcasing all the songs on each of those albums. Not such a bad idea... Here is a snippet from John Rockwell's original review of HORSES: The Pop Life: Patti Smith's First Album Listens Well By John Rockwell, The New York Times - November 7, 1975 Patti Smith's first album Horses, should be in the stores about now. It's an extraordinary disk, and every minute of it is worth repeated rehearings... Miss Smiths visions arise out of normalcy but then transcend it almost instantly. Devotees of Miss Smith will want to know how honestly and accurately this record captures the feeling of her club performances and the answer ismarvelously! The balance between voice and band is perfect, and big basic sound is the tacky, ricky-tick rock that her quartet produces live. The songs are infused with discreet, subtle touches that enhance them, and the vocal overdubbing in Land is handled brilliantly. Horses may be an eccentricity, but in a way that anything new is eccentric. If you are responsive to its mystical energy, it will shake you and move you as little else can do! Andrew F Wilson wrote:I thought the list would already be buzzing with folk listening to the new album. Perhaps the time difference has given us Europeans an advantage today. First impressions are that the packaging looks great, nothing tawdry or irritating. I might quibble with some details - the original sleeve notes are included, but not Patti's signature - Land: gets a colon, but Gloria doesn't - the reprise of Gloria on disc two isn't mentioned - the track lists on the cover, the discs and the booklet don't match - the recording date of the 1976 My Generation is missed off. Still looks good though. My ears aren't sharp enough to say how the sound of this remaster differs from the LP and the two previous versions. I'll believe it if they tell me it's better. The live disc sounds great - missing some chatter and so on, but a great performance and completely real. If I listen carefully I should be able to hear myself there at the Festival Hall, clapping in a reserved English way, and smiling for all I'm worth. Okay, you've already got a copy of Horses - maybe two. Do you need another one? You most certainly do! Kind regards Andrew --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. From babel-list-owner Wed Nov 9 05:42:30 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jA9DgT1x006836 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 05:42:30 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id jA9DgTBT006835 for babel-list-obscured; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 05:42:29 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from imo-m25.mx.aol.com (imo-m25.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.6]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jA9DgPWj006828 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 05:42:27 -0800 Received: from Metsts41 by imo-m25.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r6.3.) id m.22a.c55445 (4184) for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 08:42:19 -0500 (EST) From: Metsts41 Message-ID: <22a.c55445.30a356bb> Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 08:42:19 EST Subject: Tower Records In Store NYC To: babel-list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5039 X-Spam-Flag: NO Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ I arrived there about 1hr 45 minutes before it was scheduled to start after driving about 2 1/2 hours from Southern NJ & already there were about 30 people in line. Went in, got my wristband & Copy of Horses/Horses...Then it was waiting time. Was able to pass the time with the woman standing behind me. Seems she was my age (42) & we shared a lot of Patti stories & experiences. Made the time go faster. At least it was VERY WARM for NY in November, that helped a bit. Finally we were ushered inside the store. Patti, Lenny (acoustic Guitar), Tony (Keyboards) & Jay Dee (Bass) performed 5 songs: Redondo Beach Kimberly Wing Free Money Gloria In between each song there was a few Q&A (some seemed quite silly & Patti let us know). She reminised about Recording Horses @ Electric Lady. She also took quite a few Black & White poloroid pictures of the crowd. I later found out the camera was from 1963. After the performance we were again forced to go outside & line up for the signing. After about 90 minutes, I was FINALLY face to face with someone I've admired for 30 years. I gave her a few pictures I had taken when she first performed with her daughter Jesse in Philadelphia a few years ago, she really seemed appreciative & thanked me over & over. My brother (THANKS BILL), took a picture of me & her I will cherish forever. Then she signed my Horses/Horses as well as my copy of "Auguries of Innocence", then I was off to the band to have them sign the CD. I also had Lenny sign my 45 cover of "Child Bride", he seemed to enjoy showing it to Tony & JD. Then it was another 2 1/2 hour drive back to the wastelands of South Jersey. Sorry if this went on a bit long, but it was simply an AMAZING EXPERIENCE for me, one I will never forget...OH YEAH, the live Horses CD ROCKS, listened to it on the way home Cheers, Tom G From babel-list-owner Wed Nov 9 07:27:24 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jA9FRN29009886 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 07:27:24 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id jA9FRMct009885 for babel-list-obscured; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 07:27:22 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from mail.planetc.com (mail.planetc.com [207.65.96.16]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jA9FRL6K009876 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 07:27:21 -0800 Received: from [207.65.110.123] (unverified [207.65.110.123]) by mail.planetc.com (SurgeMail 3.6f3) with ESMTP id 13839329 for multiple; Wed, 09 Nov 2005 10:26:06 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) To: babel-list, eternalcafe Moderator Message-Id: <96627634-5135-11DA-8A69-0003938EB042> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: mckenzie Subject: Fwd: Something Simple Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 10:29:15 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com r=1280488008 X-SpamDetect: : 0.000000 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 554, in=2740, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 207.65.110.123 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/mixed by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was multipart/alternative Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Begin forwarded message: > From: "Charles" > Date: November 9, 2005 9:43:16 AM EST > To: > Subject: Fw: Something Simple > > Hi Dave, > I called you from Tower...She came out & did redondo beach, kimberly, > wing, free money & Gloria followed by the signing. She also took > questions & answered some & told us about recording in Electric > Ladyland Studios. asked if you were coming up for Christmas & that > right now they may add 1 more Bam & then only do 2 Bowery Ballroom > gigs... > Later! > > Charles [demime 1.01a removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of 01.gif] [demime 1.01a removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of 01.gif] [demime 1.01a removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of 40.gif] > > As we grow up, we learn that the one person that wasn't supposed to > ever let you down probably will. You will have your heart broken > probably more than once and it's harder every time. You'll break > hearts too, so remember how it felt when yours was broken. > > You'll fight with your best friend. You'll blame a new love for > things an old one did. You'll cry because time is passing too fast, > and you'll eventually lose someone you love. So take too many > pictures, laugh too much, and love like you've never been hurt because > every sixty seconds you spend upset is a minute of happiness > you'll never get back. > > Good friends are like stars. You don't always see them but you always > know they are there. > [demime 1.01a removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of 40.gif] [demime 1.01a removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of 01.gif] [demime 1.01a removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of 01.gif] > "The best thing to do is simply not complain, but just get on with > your situation, whatever it is, and just go forward....." > > ~ Christopher Reeve ~ From babel-list-owner Wed Nov 9 12:29:08 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jA9KT8U6018777 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 12:29:08 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id jA9KT7VY018776 for babel-list-obscured; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 12:29:07 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from mail1.panix.com (mail1.panix.com [166.84.1.72]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jA9KT5cd018769 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 12:29:06 -0800 Received: from panix2.panix.com (panix2.panix.com [166.84.1.2]) by mail1.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CD0F58846 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 15:28:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from spamtony) by panix2.panix.com (8.11.6p3/8.8.8/PanixN1.1) id jA9KSxh07545 for babel-list; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 15:28:59 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200511092028.jA9KSxh07545> Subject: Ou est Patti, Conan? To: babel-list Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 15:28:59 -0500 (EST) From: "weapons of mass destruction-related program activities" Reply-To: spamtony (Anthony J. Rzepela) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5+IMAP PL8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Soooo, what's up with the Conan show? Wasn't she supposed to be tonight's musical guest? That's not what the Conan website is reporting.... From babel-list-owner Wed Nov 9 13:27:37 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jA9LRbJZ020643 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 13:27:37 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id jA9LRb97020642 for babel-list-obscured; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 13:27:37 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from imo-m25.mx.aol.com (imo-m25.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.6]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jA9LRZ44020632 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 13:27:36 -0800 Received: from Poemsl1 by imo-m25.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r6.3.) id m.207.de51a32 (3924); Wed, 9 Nov 2005 16:27:26 -0500 (EST) From: Poemsl1 Message-ID: <207.de51a32.30a3c3be> Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 16:27:26 EST Subject: Patti on Conan To: babel-list, eternalcafe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5300 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ I think this is tonight! xxo- Seena Patti on Conan Thursday, November 10, 2005, 12:35 AM ET NBC Late Night with Conan O'Brian _http://www.vh1.com/artists/rock_on_tv/_ (http://www.vh1.com/artists/rock_on_tv/) From babel-list-owner Wed Nov 9 13:43:46 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jA9LhkcX021074 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 13:43:46 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id jA9Lhjpx021072 for babel-list-obscured; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 13:43:45 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from mail2.panix.com (mail2.panix.com [166.84.1.73]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jA9Lhgl5021066 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 13:43:45 -0800 Received: from panix2.panix.com (panix2.panix.com [166.84.1.2]) by mail2.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BCDD9D9C0; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 16:43:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from spamtony) by panix2.panix.com (8.11.6p3/8.8.8/PanixN1.1) id jA9Lhfg22083; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 16:43:41 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200511092143.jA9Lhfg22083> Subject: Re: Patti on Conan To: Poemsl1 Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 16:43:41 -0500 (EST) From: "weapons of mass destruction-related program activities" Cc: babel-list In-Reply-To: Reply-To: spamtony (Anthony J. Rzepela) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5+IMAP PL8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Poemsl1 (Poemsl1) wrote: > > I think this is tonight! xxo- Seena > > Patti on Conan > Thursday, November 10, 2005, 12:35 AM ET > NBC Late Night with Conan O'Brian See, I can never keep straight what they mean on these post-midnight show schedules. Why don't they just say "Late night Wednesday" or "Late nuight Thursday"? That's a heck of a lot clearer than the above... I've only got so much hard drive space on my Panasonic!! From babel-list-owner Wed Nov 9 13:52:34 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jA9LqVHX021317 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 13:52:32 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id jA9LqUXd021316 for babel-list-obscured; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 13:52:30 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com (imo-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.35]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jA9LqPFh021308 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 13:52:28 -0800 Received: from Poemsl1 by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r6.3.) id 8.d.505b0703 (3924); Wed, 9 Nov 2005 16:52:02 -0500 (EST) From: Poemsl1 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 16:52:02 EST Subject: Re: Patti on Conan To: spamtony, babel-list, eternalcafe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5300 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ I just called Late Night with Conan O'Brian, and they told me that tonight's show has been canceled! They would not tell me why- they said they're showing a rerun. The NBC main number is: 212-664-4444, if you want to call. Ask for Late Night with Conan O'Brian. Bummer. xxo- Seena From babel-list-owner Wed Nov 9 14:10:09 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jA9MA9X1021747 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 14:10:09 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id jA9MA8Ud021746 for babel-list-obscured; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 14:10:08 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jA9MA6Ks021740 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 14:10:07 -0800 Received: from hppav (c-67-183-11-251.hsd1.wa.comcast.net[67.183.11.251]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2005110922100101300ij5t3e>; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 22:10:01 +0000 Message-ID: <000901c5e57a$69d402c0$fb0bb743> From: "PageRox" To: "Anthony J. Rzepela" , Cc: References: <200511092143.jA9Lhfg22083> Subject: Re: Patti on Conan Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 14:10:36 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ No kidding, Anthony! Thanks Seena--I'm grateful for your knowledge of time vs TV! Hey--there's a good book title! ;-) (And of course I am grateful for all your other knowledge you have already received accolades from me for!!) I'll be a-watchin'! :-D XO-Glenna, winner of the Awkward Parenthetical Sentence Award for Nov 9, 2005! ----- Original Message ----- From: weapons of mass destruction-related program activities To: Poemsl1 Cc: babel-list Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 1:43 PM Subject: Re: Patti on Conan Poemsl1 (Poemsl1) wrote: > > I think this is tonight! xxo- Seena > > Patti on Conan > Thursday, November 10, 2005, 12:35 AM ET > NBC Late Night with Conan O'Brian See, I can never keep straight what they mean on these post-midnight show schedules. Why don't they just say "Late night Wednesday" or "Late nuight Thursday"? That's a heck of a lot clearer than the above... I've only got so much hard drive space on my Panasonic!! From babel-list-owner Wed Nov 9 14:13:07 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jA9MD7pg021802 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 14:13:07 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id jA9MD74R021801 for babel-list-obscured; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 14:13:07 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jA9MD58G021796 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 14:13:06 -0800 Received: from hppav (c-67-183-11-251.hsd1.wa.comcast.net[67.183.11.251]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <200511092213000150033j69e>; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 22:13:00 +0000 Message-ID: <001101c5e57a$d6953280$fb0bb743> From: "PageRox" To: , , , References: Subject: Re: Patti on Conan Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 14:13:39 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Oh DAMN!! Cancelled? What, isn't Conan's hair dresser available?! Man.....I still am going to watch just in case--one never knows, they may say something. I can't call but I'm so glad YOU did, Seena--they wouldn't explain anything? I wonder if its Patti or what? I mean....she IS in NYC right now isn't she? Things that make ya go 'hmmmmmmmmmm', eh? XOXO-Glenna ----- Original Message ----- From: Poemsl1 To: spamtony ; babel-list ; eternalcafe Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 1:52 PM Subject: Re: Patti on Conan I just called Late Night with Conan O'Brian, and they told me that tonight's show has been canceled! They would not tell me why- they said they're showing a rerun. The NBC main number is: 212-664-4444, if you want to call. Ask for Late Night with Conan O'Brian. Bummer. xxo- Seena From babel-list-owner Wed Nov 9 15:27:21 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jA9NRLMM023767 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 15:27:21 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id jA9NRKiN023766 for babel-list-obscured; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 15:27:20 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from mail.planetc.com (mail.planetc.com [207.65.96.16]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jA9NRJ52023761 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 15:27:19 -0800 Received: from [207.65.110.98] (unverified [207.65.110.98]) by mail.planetc.com (SurgeMail 3.6f3) with ESMTP id 13882053 for multiple; Wed, 09 Nov 2005 18:26:53 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) To: babel-list, eternalcafe Moderator Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: mckenzie Subject: Fwd: nice time last eve. Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 18:30:03 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com r=1280488008 X-SpamDetect: : 0.000000 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 554, in=3174, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 207.65.110.98 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Begin forwarded message: > From: "Charles" > Date: November 9, 2005 4:24:53 PM EST > To: > Cc: "william Charas" > Subject: Fw: nice time last eve. > > >>>> >>> >> >> ===No Conan tonight. His wife is in labor in the hospital so they >> cancelled the show tonight. From babel-list-owner Wed Nov 9 15:34:18 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jA9NYGa4023990 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 15:34:18 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id jA9NYFC8023989 for babel-list-obscured; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 15:34:15 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from library.berkeley.edu (library.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.32.48]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jA9NYBQY023983 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 15:34:14 -0800 Received: from moff203-2.library.berkeley.edu (moff203-2.Lib.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.91.6]) by library.berkeley.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id jA9NYCg7461784 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 15:34:12 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.3.1.2.20051109152712.00ba28b0> X-Sender: rbyler X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.1 Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 15:34:05 -0800 To: babel-list From: Robert Byler Subject: maitri art sale Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by penguin.postmodern.com id jA9NYFQY023985 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Any Bay Area artists on the list may be interested in donating or selling some of their work 50/50 to support Maitri. You can find out about donating here- http://www.maitrisf.org/artsale/ I will be donating some of my photos- I hope some of you consider donating your artwork also or go to the sale and buy some art. The sale is from November 17th thru the 27th at 580 Hayes Here is more info about Maitri. Maitri is one of San Franciscos most respected and valued resources in providing care to people severely debilitated by AIDS. Our current home on Duboce Avenue opened in 1997 after ten years as a residential hospice on Hartford Street. Maitri is licensed as a RCFCI (Residential Care Facility for the Chronically Ill), and offers an innovative, multi-focal program designed to meet the changing needs of people living with AIDS in a dignified and caring manner. The three types of care offered at Maitri are:  hospice care  long-term skilled nursing care  short-term intensive transitional support http://www.maitrisf.org/whoweare.html From babel-list-owner Wed Nov 9 18:44:30 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jAA2iLFE028849 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 18:44:30 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id jAA2iLcc028848 for babel-list-obscured; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 18:44:21 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jAA2iDMt028834 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 18:44:19 -0800 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i22so260232wra for ; Wed, 09 Nov 2005 18:44:06 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=G4OTpihuVLZyCCgNJZLRJX/+Yqksj55nzb6mKkFY1ZvnDVVCkR6Pl+GAwqtoyxFLsWtFL+M8wlKEPIXkx5P4eU2HU7q1gJUj5y7MRqZkzbF3xZBeb6Auhz9Vu8YcObatevD8vziYpczKoBAsCcJq/l2BMHudieB95XK0p9z6VLA= Received: by 10.65.156.11 with SMTP id i11mr65888qbo; Wed, 09 Nov 2005 18:44:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.232.3 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 18:44:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 02:44:05 +0000 From: Andrew F Wilson To: babel-list Subject: Re: Tower Records In Store NYC In-Reply-To: <22a.c55445.30a356bb> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 References: <22a.c55445.30a356bb> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by penguin.postmodern.com id jAA2iKMt028844 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ There are some tiny photos of the in-store performance at Tower Records on 8 November 2005 here: http://www.filmmagic.com/ItemListing.aspx?cgl=148160&evntI=0 Sam Shepard was there as well - woo-hoo! Kind regards Andrew From babel-list-owner Wed Nov 9 19:16:15 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jAA3GEt0029909 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 19:16:15 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id jAA3GEUx029907 for babel-list-obscured; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 19:16:14 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from imo-m23.mail.aol.com (imo-m23.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.4]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jAA3GCuA029901 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 19:16:13 -0800 Received: from Lloyd5009 by imo-m23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r6.3.) id m.22b.d5b3d1 (3657) for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 22:16:00 -0500 (EST) From: Lloyd5009 Message-ID: <22b.d5b3d1.30a41570> Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 22:16:00 EST Subject: Re: Tower Records In Store NYC To: Babel-list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5021 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Thx for the pics! You must have been one of the first in. I would've liked it if you had captured the cowboy boots, tho. Lisa From babel-list-owner Wed Nov 9 19:38:00 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jAA3bxOd030642 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 19:38:00 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id jAA3bxmO030641 for babel-list-obscured; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 19:37:59 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from sccmmhc92.asp.att.net (sccmmhc92.asp.att.net [204.127.203.212]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jAA3bwGS030633 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 19:37:58 -0800 Received: from sccqwbc04 (sccqwbc04.asp.att.net[204.127.203.164]) by sccmmhc92.asp.att.net (sccmmhc92) with SMTP id <20051110033753m92006817oe>; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 03:37:53 +0000 Received: from [12.218.105.42] by sccqwbc04; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 03:37:53 +0000 From: rlking To: babel-list Subject: Re: Patti on Conan Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 03:37:53 +0000 Message-Id: <111020050337.6913.4372C09100050C0A00001B01219792676109020705049D> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Jun 21 2005) X-Authenticated-Sender: cmxraW5nQG1jaHNpLmNvbQ== Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ a quick lookup of Patti Smith on the search engine shows several other appearences: Mon 11.14 09:00 PM ET IFC Punk Attitude Patti Smith , Henry Rollins , The Ramones , Chrissie Hynde , Jello Biafra , Steve Jones More... Info Tue 11.15 01:00 AM ET IFC Punk Attitude Patti Smith , Henry Rollins , The Ramones , Chrissie Hynde , Jello Biafra , Steve Jones More... Info Tue 11.15 06:00 AM ET IFC Punk Attitude Patti Smith , Henry Rollins , The Ramones , Chrissie Hynde , Jello Biafra , Steve Jones More... Info Wed 11.16 12:37 AM ET CBS The Late Late Show With Craig Ferguson: 2005/11/15 Patti Smith > I think this is tonight! xxo- Seena > > Patti on Conan > Thursday, November 10, 2005, 12:35 AM ET > NBC Late Night with Conan O'Brian > > _http://www.vh1.com/artists/rock_on_tv/_ > (http://www.vh1.com/artists/rock_on_tv/) From babel-list-owner Wed Nov 9 20:39:32 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jAA4dWIw032411 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 20:39:32 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id jAA4dWH0032410 for babel-list-obscured; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 20:39:32 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from imo-d22.mx.aol.com (imo-d22.mx.aol.com [205.188.144.208]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jAA4dUF6032405 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 20:39:31 -0800 Received: from Poemsl1 by imo-d22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r6.3.) id m.14.51929ab2 (3924) for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 23:39:20 -0500 (EST) From: Poemsl1 Message-ID: <14.51929ab2.30a428f8> Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 23:39:20 EST Subject: Re: Tower Records In Store NYC To: babel-list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5300 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ In a message dated 11/9/2005 9:49:25 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, andrewfwilson writes: Sam Shepard was there as well - woo-hoo! Now I really regret not going- I love him! OMG! xxo- Seena From babel-list-owner Thu Nov 10 04:41:15 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jAACfE4R014707 for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 04:41:15 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id jAACfEei014706 for babel-list-obscured; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 04:41:14 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from pop06.mail.atl.earthlink.net (pop06.mail.atl.earthlink.net [207.69.200.40]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jAACfDKA014696 for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 04:41:13 -0800 Received: from mswamui-backed.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.224.25]) by pop06.mail.atl.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #10) id 1EaBjv-0003ae-00 for babel-list; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 07:41:15 -0500 Message-ID: <26758928.1131626475406.JavaMail.root> Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 07:41:14 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: schanke Reply-To: schanke To: babel-list Subject: Patti on the late late show Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ here's a link to get tickets to be in the tv audience. i was able to get tickets as of 7:40am 11/10/05. http://www.ocatv.com/latelate/ From babel-list-owner Thu Nov 10 15:34:18 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jAANYHBB004015 for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 15:34:18 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id jAANYHNQ004014 for babel-list-obscured; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 15:34:17 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.com (mailout05.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.82]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jAANYFUP004004 for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 15:34:16 -0800 Received: from fwd31.aul.t-online.de by mailout05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1EaLvr-0001on-00; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 00:34:15 +0100 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (r9AZo+ZvreAi-ricqTQe-PTtV-BqV-zxZu+Cghkn5y4CEA2X5XyhrW[217.251.43.2]) by fwd31.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1EaLvo-2GbUSe0; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 00:34:12 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Patti Smith's Birthday Party From: "Birgit Mahner" To: "Hi" X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 5.00.0035 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset="ISO-8859-1" Date: 10 Nov 2005 23:34 GMT Message-ID: <1EaLvo-2GbUSe0> X-ID: r9AZo+ZvreAi-ricqTQe-PTtV-BqV-zxZu+Cghkn5y4CEA2X5XyhrW X-TOI-MSGID: 77a3ec86-bab9-472a-8863-4402694c8e20 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from Quoted-Printable to 8bit by penguin.postmodern.com id jAANYGUP004010 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Hi, all you fans out there! Patti's birthday is on Dec 30 and - as you all know - she usually celebrates with fans and friends at the Bowery Ballroom, NYC. Everybody expects her to do it this year. Now I live in Germany and don't have the opportunity to go to NYC - therefore I decided to celebrate with fans in my hometown. It is a small town in Northern Germany between Hamburg and Luebeck, quite nice for a little vacation. If you want to be invited, please send an email to: patti-smith-birthday Maybe you like to come over and join? Looking forward to see you - Birgit From babel-list-owner Thu Nov 10 15:41:46 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jAANfi9C004163 for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 15:41:46 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id jAANfir9004162 for babel-list-obscured; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 15:41:44 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from imo-m27.mx.aol.com (imo-m27.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.8]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jAANfgJ7004156 for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 15:41:43 -0800 Received: from Poemsl1 by imo-m27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r6.3.) id z.f7.5d736933 (3858); Thu, 10 Nov 2005 18:41:32 -0500 (EST) From: Poemsl1 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 18:41:32 EST Subject: Re: Patti Smith's Birthday Party To: BMahner, babel-list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5300 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Hi Birgit- Thanks for the invitation- it sounds like a fun party! Unfortunately, I live in New York City and cannot make it over there. Have a great time! xxo- Seena From babel-list-owner Thu Nov 10 15:51:44 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jAANphBi004513 for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 15:51:44 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id jAANphE0004512 for babel-list-obscured; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 15:51:43 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from web81711.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web81711.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.199.175]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with SMTP id jAANpfil004505 for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 15:51:42 -0800 Received: (qmail 94054 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Nov 2005 23:51:40 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=P8YGTwsEg4GWA1b33pQrRyx9w1bzvjnusHX2VFdWP8ZXoYTWW0HLmLLjl2H1VR9IerNXUvJ9uJG9FvlKz0AEmxpm8LpncHll0HskpWAqWGHVygNOQc3TKIc1TGXV47O97viP2Z4a2tLMNY4Wf2oWoiaFQmHkoffoKMrqZm5l7qg= ; Message-ID: <20051110235140.94052.qmail> Received: from [204.68.210.59] by web81711.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 15:51:39 PST Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 15:51:39 -0800 (PST) From: Li Lightfoot Subject: Sony rootkit sparks legal onslaught To: Babel MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Sony rootkit sparks legal onslaughtClass action lawsuit filed against company's antipiracy software that allegedly enables World of Warcraft cheating. The tangled web woven by music giant Sony BMG is getting bigger by the minute. The label is already facing a class action lawsuit in California over its use of copy-protection software on its CDs that hides itself when the CD is played on a Windows-based PC. And now at least two other suits are on the way, one in New York and another in Italy. The legal and PR nightmare stems from Sony BMG's use of a particular type of digital rights management copy-protection software on at least 20 of its CDs. Those CDs include Trey Anastasio's Shine, Celine Dion's On ne Change Pas, Neil Diamond's 12 Songs, Amerie's Touch, Pete Seeger's The Essential Pete Seeger, and Ricky Martin's Life. Partial lists of CDs are at Slashdot and the Electronic Frontier Foundation. The software in this case, designed to prevent a user from copying a CD more than twice, was created by First 4 Internet. It is called a "rootkit," and once a CD is loaded onto a computer, a watchdog program is installed, and then hides itself deep in the core of the operating system. That's where the trouble begins, first uncovered by programmer and blogger Mark Russinovich. A side effect of the software is that it can be used to hide any files with a certain string of characters in the file name. Already reports have surfaced of World of Warcraft hackers using the program to make their cheats impossible for Blizzard's Warden anti-cheating program to detect. The California suit, filed last week in Los Angeles Superior Court by a Southern California attorney on behalf of all California consumers "who purchased or acquired one of the rootkit-installed CDs," claims Sony BMG broke three state laws--the Consumer Legal Remedies Act, the Consumer Protection against Computer Spyware Act, and the California Unfair Competition law--according to the filing. It asks the court to force Sony to stop selling any more CDs containing the rootkit and seeks compensation for damage already incurred by users. The suit centers on the matter of user notification and the rootkit's removal. The filing claims that the license agreement that pops up when a protected CD is loaded does not indicate the potential damage caused by the software. The agreement says, "The software is intended to protect the audio files on this CD. It will reside on your computer until it is removed or deleted." It does not say that the software hides itself. The California lawsuit also charges that the agreement does not say that the computer will be damaged--the CD player becomes inoperable--if the user tries to uninstall it. Sony has since released a patch that makes its software visible again. Sony has also sent the rootkit-cloaking information to antivirus software companies so they know to look for it. The company has also said it has abandoned the rootkit strategy, but not, of course, the use of other forms of DRM copy protection. In a related and considerably ironic matter, Sony has been providing a work-around at the same site that lets you copy the protected songs to a portable music player. The California lawsuit was filed before even more problems emerged. Virus maker Sophos reported today that it has spotted an e-mail going around that tries to exploit the controversial file-hiding abilities of antipiracy software embedded on some of Sony BMG's music CDs. So unless the owner of one of those CDs has already downloaded Sony's patch to make the software visible again, and antivirus software companies beat virus creators to the punch, some music fans have been hit with a Trojan horse virus as a result of listening to a legally purchased CD on their computers. More suits are expected to follow the California filing. A second nationwide class action lawsuit is expected to be filed against Sony in a New York court this week, and the Electronic Frontier Foundation in Italy has filed papers with the Italian police alleging Sony is guilty of "illicit acts" and calling for an investigation. Another Italian consumer group, Altroconsumo, sent a cease-and-desist letter to the Italian division of Sony BMG, the group announced. The letter asks Sony to not distribute the rootkit CDs in Italy. Sony BMG did not return calls seeking comment. By Jim Welte -- GameSpot Posted Nov 10, 2005 2:29 pm PT From babel-list-owner Thu Nov 10 21:39:19 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jAB5dG5h014383 for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 21:39:19 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id jAB5dGCt014379 for babel-list-obscured; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 21:39:16 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from mail.planetc.com (smtp-2.planetc.com [207.65.96.16]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jAB5dE83014372 for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 21:39:15 -0800 Received: from [207.65.110.45] (unverified [207.65.110.45]) by mail.planetc.com (SurgeMail 3.6f3) with ESMTP id 14019336 for multiple; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 00:38:34 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: babel-list, "cscharas via mrsmiley.com" , eternalcafe Moderator From: mckenzie Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 00:41:48 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com r=1280488008 X-SpamDetect: : 0.000000 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 1, First 555, in=3985, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 207.65.110.45 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ No Patti on Conan tonight(thursday)? What gives?!?!?!?! Dave From babel-list-owner Fri Nov 11 04:39:11 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jABCdBvO026530 for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 04:39:11 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id jABCdBJH026529 for babel-list-obscured; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 04:39:11 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from Front-end2.KRONOS.COM (front-end2.kronos.com [158.228.2.30]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jABCd9K7026521 for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 04:39:10 -0800 Received: from exchg-f.KRONOS.COM ([158.228.0.199]) by Front-end2.KRONOS.COM with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Fri, 11 Nov 2005 07:39:07 -0500 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: RE: Sony rootkit sparks legal onslaught Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 07:39:04 -0500 Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Sony rootkit sparks legal onslaught Thread-Index: AcXmUd4frl4SmgsBSYys500+tIf2nwAarzMw From: "Gart, Mitchell" To: "Li Lightfoot" , "Babel" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Nov 2005 12:39:07.0251 (UTC) FILETIME=[E81EF430:01C5E6BC] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by penguin.postmodern.com id jABCdAK7026523 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ >From eff.org, here is the list of Sony CDs known to be infected with this copy protection virus. - Mitch Trey Anastasio, Shine (Columbia) Celine Dion, On ne Change Pas (Epic) Neil Diamond, 12 Songs (Columbia) Our Lady Peace, Healthy in Paranoid Times (Columbia) Chris Botti, To Love Again (Columbia) Van Zant, Get Right with the Man (Columbia) Switchfoot, Nothing is Sound (Columbia) The Coral, The Invisible Invasion (Columbia) Acceptance, Phantoms (Columbia) Susie Suh, Susie Suh (Epic) Amerie, Touch (Columbia) Life of Agony, Broken Valley (Epic) Horace Silver Quintet, Silver's Blue (Epic Legacy) Gerry Mulligan, Jeru (Columbia Legacy) Dexter Gordon, Manhattan Symphonie (Columbia Legacy) The Bad Plus, Suspicious Activity (Columbia) The Dead 60s, The Dead 60s (Epic) Dion, The Essential Dion (Columbia Legacy) Natasha Bedingfield, Unwritten (Epic) Ricky Martin, Life (Columbia) From babel-list-owner Fri Nov 11 08:04:58 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jABG4vDC001638 for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 08:04:58 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id jABG4vnY001637 for babel-list-obscured; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 08:04:57 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from smtpauth07.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth07.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.67]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id jABG4u3v001632 for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 08:04:56 -0800 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=RqDPqYD5hCOzSYBWNhSQkv6z0DDvvAzZVsDjbJgR8eZaDX8ZdXhgOw2JfQbHN+gU; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [165.121.25.153] (helo=dong) by smtpauth07.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1EabOd-0003rD-Dv for babel-list; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 11:05:00 -0500 Message-ID: <003001c5e6d9$aacd4c40$991979a5> From: "Cuthbertson, John" To: References: <200511111000.jABA01tT021665> Subject: Re: babel-digest V10 #255 Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 08:04:53 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-ELNK-Trace: 79d7b6c85061f3cc74bf435c0eb9d478f4b05223a03c6471eebc38a26bcf1e7aeecfb4a3e96112d6350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 165.121.25.153 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Conan's wife just had a baby the day before and the show had been in reruns because of the impending birth. While Thursday's show was live, it featured pick-up guests rather than those originally scheduled as Conan anticipated being off for the birth. Also, Patti was (and is) in Seattle for the Rockrgrl conference, receiving their 'Woman of Valor' award Thursday evening. Tonight (Friday), it's the 30th anniversary of 'Horses' event at The Crocodile Cafe in Seattle with Patti & Lenny performing - if one can believe the rumors - with members of R.E.M. Hopefully, the Late Night with Conan O'Brie