Re: Fwd: Re: Patti on Conan

["unnamed user" <unnameduser>]

Holy cow!  They made a big mistake in California.  They should have spared
Tookie and given the leathal injection to Ollie.  You go, girl.

> [Original Message]
> From: jackthecat <jackthecat>
> To: <unnameduser>; Phil Grabar <pgrabar>;
<babel-list>
> Date: 12/15/2005 3:50:13 AM
> Subject: Re: Fwd: Re:  Patti on Conan
>
> hard to be her boyfriend with all of us crazy maniac fans?????? Ollie
didn't 
> give a crap...he became a meanspirited son of a bitch as soon as he got
over 
> his stage fright....all he managed to do was make patti a nastier person 
> than she normally has been since I ever have been in her vicinity....she
is 
> very very nice now.....I guess its a relief to be rid of the little 
> untalented turd and get rid of the charade that he's her collaberator and
a 
> poet....his output over their 10 years call whatever song they did
together 
> patti's gift and her belief that Ollie had talent....as for Tony, he's a 
> saint, yeah he got along with Ollie, did he have a choice....???? I give
him 
> credit for keeping the band together when no one else could stand the
little 
> untalented nonmusical whiner..I think he broke up many a band meeting
fight, 
> and many a non band meeting fight too....Tony has the patience of Job and 
> the talent of a multiinstrumentalist.....as the new guy I guess he got
stuck 
> with the job of keeping Lenny from quitting or walking off stage as
Oliver 
> got treated like the son of George HW Bush, and had about as much musical 
> literacy as W has intelligence or ability to 
> speak/talk/walk/empathize/lead/read/or ride a bike.  I would like to
point 
> out that Ollie rose to the top despite his no talent and underwear model
cum 
> beat poet sensitive pale blue eyes hooked into the Ann Arbor Ginsberg
Annual 
> Poetry Project probably cuz of his stockbroker/rich wall street type 
> divorced (how broken he must be and so thin) dad who had connections
where 
> he had the good/bad fortune to meet patti...all I want to say is what
about 
> the Andi Ostrowe's of Patti's world, the person who sat and wrote down
the 
> words patti dictated from her hospital bed wherever that was, when she
was 
> recovering for months after she broke her neck in January 1976....??????? 
> Andi took down every word by hand that patti said and that was 
> Babel....without Andi, no Babel.... What about those people????  The
people 
> at Gotham Book Mart that helped her sell her books, other book people
that 
> didn't rip her off like that first guy did.....Hanuman Books, yeah Ollie 
> worked there I think, not due to his creative output tho.... what about 
> Sadowsky musical instruments that the band used for a while.....did they 
> help out the band???? what about the Bowery Ballroom setting aside New
Years 
> and two other days the first year or 2 not knowing who would show 
> up.....Just so this isn't a stupid email check out cafepress.com, (or
org), 
> its a bunch of local/small businesses working out of one email address
with 
> great bumper stickers.   I just thought of one stupid one: Tony likes
Ollie. 
> Go Tony!!!!  Tony is A Tiger.... Dreamy Tony Shanahan...all the Girls and 
> Boys Love Tony!!!!!! He's from NJ.  NJ 's looking for a state slogan, I
say. 
> New Jersey: Home of Dreamy Tony Shanahan. JTC, vitriolicolliebasheritsfun.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "unnamed user" <unnameduser>
> To: "Phil Grabar" <pgrabar>; <babel-list>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 7:40 PM
> Subject: RE: Fwd: Re: Patti on Conan
>
>
> > Darn, you saw through my alias. I was going to try to create a
groundswell
> > for my return. If only I were old enough to have shot junk with you
guys 
> > in
> > the 70's, then I could be accepted as a true bohemian artiste. Yoko
> > Ray.......Have you ever noticed how most redneck fellons usually have
the
> > name Ray or Wayne Ray?
> >
> >
> >
> >> [Original Message]
> >> From: Phil Grabar <pgrabar>
> >> To: <babel-list>
> >> Date: 12/14/2005 7:00:41 PM
> >> Subject: Fwd: Re:  Patti on Conan
> >>
> >> >Hey Oliver - welcome to babel-list!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >   Jesus, you guys are hard on Oliver. I rather liked him. He and
> >> > Tony seemed to genuinely like each other. In the 5 or 6 concerts
> >> > I've seen him in, he has been excellent. I admit, I never saw him
> >> > in his training period, but the band has been tight in several of
> >> > the shows I've seen. It must have been rough to be Patti's
> >> > boyfriend and have to deal with you nutty/possessive fans. Cut him
> >> > some slack. He wasn't perfect, but neither are any of us.
> >> >
> >> >unnamed user
> >> >unnameduser
> >> >Why Wait? Move to EarthLink.
> >>
> >>
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