From babel-list-owner Wed Mar 1 05:33:34 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k21DXYJd026710 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 05:33:34 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k21DXYA2026709 for babel-list-obscured; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 05:33:34 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from pproxy.gmail.com (pproxy.gmail.com [64.233.166.176]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k21DXXR6026702 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 05:33:33 -0800 Received: by pproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id x31so61477pye for ; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 05:33:35 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Bdh/ALSmHJA9hZbh0Z18WmQAbPW+Ynt+5uno1jljsWj6kun4W7bXO2dMNLcwEJrx5EryMxkAcO000UrPrd0ip0FrNZJ44WrDjYsZQBJUqZpe0Wxs0nuMSCIF4/PaGg/ftFPZK15IpOx2xqpdtvFJvyAtrdfZFK8sZ/myPU3r8LA= Received: by 10.65.212.3 with SMTP id o3mr90245qbq; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 05:33:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.197.3 with HTTP; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 05:33:35 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6f10fa9d0603010533waff9761hbe5cc888db38a19d> Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 05:33:35 -0800 From: "Dennis Moore" To: Babel-list Subject: [npc?] Bill Graham's music vault from his 35,000 concerts and now is streaming it on the net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by penguin.postmodern.com id k21DXXR6026704 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ About Vault Radio Bill Graham and his concert promotion company, Bill Graham Presents, produced more than 35,000 concerts all over the world. His first venue, the legendary Fillmore Auditorium, was home to many of rock's greatest performers - Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, The Doors, The Grateful Dead, Jefferson Airplane, Otis Redding, Marvin Gaye, Led Zeppelin, Eric Clapton, Bob Dylan, Prince - and the list goes on and on. Graham taped thousands of live performances and stored the tapes in the basement of the BGP headquarters. These tapes and the concerts they captured lay dormant until the Bill Graham archive was acquired by Wolfgang's Vault (Bill Graham's given first name was Wolfgang) in 2003. Vault Radio is now playing selected tracks from these concerts in an FM-quality, 128K digital radio stream. Songs will be added to and removed from the radio show on a regular basis. We will be broadcasting unaltered live performance music from many of the greatest bands of the last 40 years. The music you hear on Vault Radio has not been sweetened or polished. You'll be listening to what the band played that night - nothing more, nothing less. http://www.wolfgangsvault.com/Static.aspx?Type=Audio/Radio.htm&CategoryID=RA&LeftNav=Audio/RadioNav.htm&nhbx=1 From babel-list-owner Wed Mar 1 09:28:44 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k21HSiUM003713 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 09:28:44 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k21HSiFf003712 for babel-list-obscured; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 09:28:44 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from pop-knobcone.atl.sa.earthlink.net (pop-knobcone.atl.sa.earthlink.net [207.69.195.64]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k21HSgO2003705 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 09:28:43 -0800 Received: from elwamui-wigeon.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.224.53]) by pop-knobcone.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #10) id 1FEV7z-0005XQ-00; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 12:28:43 -0500 Message-ID: <26759877.1141234123195.JavaMail.root> Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 11:28:43 -0600 (GMT-06:00) From: Keith Reply-To: Keith To: babel-list, xuicholti Subject: bit-torrents (npc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ >Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 07:39:13 -0800 (PST) >From: John MacDougall >Subject: Re: babel-digest V11 #55 > >Any suggestions or comments on bitTorrents for us >Mac-ophiles? >John I use Azureus, an older version I have on my powerbook. On my iMac I updated to the newest version and every time I go to use it, it crashes as soon as it opens. I tried to go back and get the older version but the same thing happened so I'm not going to update my powerbook. Then I use xAct to turn it into either a wav or aiff (?) file. Next I use Toast to burn the shows on to cds. But to use Azureus on my powerbook I did have to buy an external mouse so I could "right click" to open the file. I just couldn't figure out a way to do it w/o the ability to right click and I tried a whole lotta different ways. Keith From babel-list-owner Sun Mar 5 13:57:45 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k25Lvjax023151 for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2006 13:57:45 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k25LvjFH023150 for babel-list-obscured; Sun, 5 Mar 2006 13:57:45 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from smtpauth01.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth01.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.61]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k25LvhjY023144 for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2006 13:57:44 -0800 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=BppLXNlvgkgLHh11lNQLX/IpHYr5KRE01kc5nDSyqkf2s5ROj8rBiBmLYHWF8iOi; h=Received:Message-ID:X-Priority:Reply-To:X-Mailer:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [67.20.214.99] (helo=earthlink.net) by smtpauth01.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1FG1EW-0001F8-8X for babel-list; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 16:57:44 -0500 Message-ID: <410-22006305215742734> Reply-To: ravensdawn X-Mailer: EarthLink MailBox 2004.1.42.0 (Windows) From: "Paul Perner" To: babel-list Subject: In the Deep (npc) Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 13:57:42 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-ELNK-Trace: 4edfec6b6b5efd62da0aaa6235189d65239a348a220c26099bf460ecbe13ea0971e3065ceb52df33350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 67.20.214.99 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Greetings Babelites and Other Seekers of Tower of Tongues, Does that sound pious enough? I'm practicing being a new age prophet so I can build a web site to unload several pounds of mystical self-help books that have become completely useless to me.... maybe it's just me, but...... The real point of this post is: If you are an artist of any kind and you've had your ass kicked by life, the world, circumstance, whatever, keep on plugging and growing. I know a woman who a couple years ago didn't think her CDs could be found anywhere but the 99 cent bin. She never gave up and she just got a major label deal. On top of that, one of her songs was nominated for an Oscar... and she'll be performing it live tonight at a gig that rates higher than the Grammys. Hard work and talent is one thing, but add to that the fact that Bird is one of the nicest, most up-front and honest, for real human beings on this planet. If anyone cares to join, I do a Yahoo group for her. Most Patti fans would like her music. www.yahoogroups.com/group/VelvetWings Here's the main site (that will be re-vamped very soon) www.birdyork.com (I've teased her that the above reads like Birdy Ork) The song and the movie Crash mean a lot to me personally. It will blow my mind if she wins tonight. If she doesn't, oh well, there's still no stopping the well-spring of love and creativity she has cultivated within and around her. Paul And now back to our regularly scheduled over-barring religious programming. For lo, my brethren, ye cameth not unto the land of those who sing praises of evil for the gold of the.... From babel-list-owner Mon Mar 6 17:32:12 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k271WCpu020348 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2006 17:32:12 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k271WCIP020347 for babel-list-obscured; Mon, 6 Mar 2006 17:32:12 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k271WAar020341 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2006 17:32:11 -0800 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 14so1389900nzn for ; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 17:32:12 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=nzQumAMB2OyZZV/xAIQahVyUa6jYSw0hA+t5TJD7WqDQ+VcZYSY0qfotruTq7YEtTDImXT/dWylXMOW1KngzZWpYb8DPc5JPf0TSvdzN2tAjE/kQTK0PJuxlVYrRRPqudhcnSjaZCDCsP5L4ofWk5Sk84haGCYfQqs5dYF71h1I= Received: by 10.65.160.10 with SMTP id m10mr2430706qbo; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 17:32:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.243.2 with HTTP; Mon, 6 Mar 2006 17:32:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 01:32:12 +0000 From: "Andrew F Wilson" To: Babel-list Subject: Patti Smith on the Return of the Tie MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by penguin.postmodern.com id k271WBar020343 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ The March 2006 issue of Harper's Bazaar includes a two page article written by Patti about ties. It doesn't seem to be available online. If you're trying to find it on a newstand, it has a red cover and a photo of Madonna. Patti's article is on pp.209-210. http://www.harpersbazaar.com/ Kind regards Andrew From babel-list-owner Mon Mar 6 18:33:31 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k272XU8Y022910 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2006 18:33:31 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k272XUpC022909 for babel-list-obscured; Mon, 6 Mar 2006 18:33:30 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from web81701.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web81701.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.199.165]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with SMTP id k272XTsf022894 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2006 18:33:29 -0800 Received: (qmail 53074 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Mar 2006 02:33:26 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Jl7tIzO3kXcvSkVRvc30L6jF/IHNKKlUd8x0pGLzp7R5B/C93EdTJuJUHkjovA0HHtPZgOc/S9wfNYEaeApyb285qFngzFEJ8h7bLi0lrNaAlsb6UBT/BSRKfQ+dWsFyS1n49bexPv3pwYyVh4hO2NPQ5XgAYr5jOa7ef+fKCJY= ; Message-ID: <20060307023326.53072.qmail> Received: from [69.224.0.222] by web81701.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 18:33:26 PST Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 18:33:26 -0800 (PST) From: Li Lightfoot Subject: Re: Patti Smith on the Return of the Tie To: Andrew F Wilson , Babel-list In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Ain't it strange? Andrew F Wilson wrote: The March 2006 issue of Harper's Bazaar includes a two page article written by Patti about ties. It doesn't seem to be available online. If you're trying to find it on a newstand, it has a red cover and a photo of Madonna. Patti's article is on pp.209-210. http://www.harpersbazaar.com/ Kind regards Andrew From babel-list-owner Thu Mar 9 19:57:27 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2A3vR4I009542 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2006 19:57:27 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k2A3vRfE009541 for babel-list-obscured; Thu, 9 Mar 2006 19:57:27 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from pop-canoe.atl.sa.earthlink.net (pop-canoe.atl.sa.earthlink.net [207.69.195.66]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2A3vARa009527 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2006 19:57:26 -0800 Received: from elwamui-sweet.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.224.49]) by pop-canoe.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #10) id 1FHYkb-00073L-00 for babel-list; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 22:57:13 -0500 Message-ID: <27273839.1141963033855.JavaMail.root> Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 22:57:13 -0500 (EST) From: Keith Reply-To: Keith To: babel-list Subject: Las Vegas nicer to CBGB than NYC... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by penguin.postmodern.com id k2A3vQRa009537 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ C.B.G.B. owner says Essex building doesnbt rock By Lincoln Anderson bThis ainbt no Mudd Club, or C.B.G.B.,b David Byrne sang. Hilly Kristal, owner of C.B.G.B., feels the same way about a property the city recently offered him for a new home for the legendary punk music club. At the end of last year, Kristal reached an agreement with Bowery Residentsb Committee to vacate his space on the Bowery by this coming Halloween. Since then, hebs been looking both in Las Vegas and Manhattan for new locations to reopen. Speaking on Monday, Kristal said hebd just returned from Vegas where he was checking out several different spaces. He said he likes one of the locations a lot but is bgetting the money situation together first before we doing anything.b bI like Las Vegas,b he said. bIbm a little sore about what happened in New York. But I really feel I would like to do it in New York, despite what happened. I have about three New York spaces Ibm looking at, and Ibm going to look at others too.b In addition to B.R.C. effectively kicking Kristal out of the property C.B.G.B. occupied for 23 years, Kristal was also disappointed when Mayor Bloombergbs pledge to help him find a new space didnbt pan out. According to Kristal, the city offered him the Essex Market building on Essex St. south of Delancey St. in the Seward Park Urban Renewal Area. bWe looked at that place that the mayorbs office was offering,b he said. bIt has a little liquor store and coffee shop in it b we would have gotten the rest of the buildingb&. It was nothing b itbs just a shell. They wanted an advance of $5 million. It was a bit of a shock to me. I thought they were going to get me a place that was going to be reasonable.b By contrast, Kristal said, bThe mayorbs office in Las Vegas has been very helpful. Theybve been finding me places. Itbs a good feeling.b Meanwhile, he said hebs having more luck working with Newmark Real Estate. Hebs currently looking at two spots in Times Square, two in the East Village, one in Noho, another in Tribeca and two or three places above 14th St., including btwo floors in an old printing factory around W. 18th St. Itbs pretty reasonable,b he said. http://www.thevillager.com/villager_148/cbgbownersays.html From babel-list-owner Sat Mar 11 06:48:56 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2BEmt0u018998 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 06:48:56 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k2BEmttk018997 for babel-list-obscured; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 06:48:55 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from pproxy.gmail.com (pproxy.gmail.com [64.233.166.178]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2BEmsZM018992 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 06:48:54 -0800 Received: by pproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id w49so769144pyg for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 06:48:55 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=o3c7iQG72a6K9DiuPwprsDvU1q/r7MXog58IwpTciqB8obWRf27ykSHGXl00XWbYbVOJnfWX7mmEL6rldx1ptPK90DIwvp0h3gwwxTxo1VA3sizGiFIQOR3eNQ8rg0hU1KRC3YAtVfjM+hpq36jEpgq1XmoY9TM9EoOttFNmdTk= Received: by 10.64.243.6 with SMTP id q6mr1327593qbh; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 06:48:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.197.3 with HTTP; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 06:48:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6f10fa9d0603110648t33d9c771wfad2ea6ed0e4bfff> Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 06:48:55 -0800 From: "Dennis Moore" To: Babel-list Subject: Nigger, nigger, nigger.....[tangental pc] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by penguin.postmodern.com id k2BEmtZM018993 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Willamette Week Online Local Reviews & Previews BY MICHAEL BYRNE, JASON SIMMS, AMY MCCULLOUGH & CASEY JARMAN http://www.wweek.com/story.php?story=7299 Punk Rock Faggots come under fire A band of high-school punks inspire ire with online activists On Saturday, Feb. 25, www.PDXPress.net sponsored a benefit concert at Reed College that raised $900 for Oregon Books to Prisoners. A product of the punk website's altruism, the event hardly seems objectionable. So how did it become a flashpoint for online social activists? Seven words: Wolfgang Williams and the Punk Rock Faggots. A local high-school band that was set to open the show, WWPRF raised the ire of a man who called himself only Topher. The man was allowed to take the stage to share his views after organizers refused to boot WWPRF from the bill at his request. Witnesses report that Topher, who later turned down WW's request for an interview, argued that an all-white band would never call itself the Punk Rock Niggers, so calling a band of straight guys "faggots" was just as offensive. Twenty or so hecklers out of the crowd of 200 did little to dispel accusations of homophobia, taunting the activist. WWPRF's bass player, Andre Fortes, thanked the activist for sharing his views, and then the band played, starting its set with the song "I'm So Straight." Fortes later explained to WW that the band played that songfeaturing the lyrics "Punch me in the face and give me a beer/ I gotta prove I ain't a queer""to point out the fact that everything we're about is satirical." But the satire fell on skeptical ears at Portland Independent Media Center (www.portland.indymedia.org), where Topher published an account of his experience at the show that elicited more than 50 comments, almost all verbose and angry in their support of the activist. In that article, Topher relayed a response from Fortes claiming that the band was simply carrying on a punk-rock tradition, adopting the moniker as a challenge to high-school bullies who called the band members "faggots." Topher countered that apparently "they were entitled to perpetuate this hate speech beyond their high-school walls." Band leader Wolfgang Williams disagrees. "We were trying to reduce the power of the word by calling ourselves faggots," Williams told WW. Since the performance, show organizers and the band have apologized for the actions of the crowd, and Oregon Books to Prisoners even posted an open apology on Indy Media. The apology is understandable, but Indy Media's rejection of WWPRF's wordplay is a little more puzzling, considering that community's history with slippery semantics. In 2004, an Indy Media author praised Patti Smith for her Crystal Ballroom performance, citing her encore as "the best" part of the show. The song the white punk legend performed was "Rock 'n' Roll Nigger," which culminated in a group chant of "Everyone's a nigger!" The article garnered four comments, all of which were supportive. From babel-list-owner Sat Mar 11 06:54:17 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2BEsHwg019188 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 06:54:17 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k2BEsHq0019187 for babel-list-obscured; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 06:54:17 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2BEsFk7019181 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 06:54:16 -0800 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i24so861947wra for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 06:54:17 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=gA2/9Ir+itvxatEuC+r1m+CGg5MTye6ZYaL34ukFnnU+pp8n4v3w98S54wZZSogV3IB68yLr7EgQjbds091wM4aY0LwAaWqB4S8HxQ9AFDX2OdOwut9PpMH3SB1Z0eWTL/a7kC9lSC4CfbCk8ZamkCLWcuPiWn66iRm1g7F+jIM= Received: by 10.64.232.9 with SMTP id e9mr659629qbh; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 06:54:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.197.3 with HTTP; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 06:54:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6f10fa9d0603110654q76b1fe60y359ff6fb20f9b6be> Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 06:54:17 -0800 From: "Dennis Moore" To: Babel-list Subject: Memorable Saturday Night Live Musical Moments MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by penguin.postmodern.com id k2BEsGk7019183 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ A.V. Club Inventory: Ten Memorable Saturday Night Live Musical Moments By Noel Murray March 7th, 2006 http://www.avclub.com/content/node/46061 [snip] 2. April 17, 1976Patti Smith Though Saturday Night Live was broadcast from New York during an era when the city's clubs were fostering a punk-rock revolution, the best of those bands rarely got a chance to take the SNL stage in their prime. One major exception was Patti Smith, who appeared after her album Horses had become a cult hit, but before she crossed over to the mainstream with "Because The Night." Suddenly, an audience raised on The Beatles and The Grateful Dead was asked to appreciate an androgynous, atonal beat poet, embellishing the garage-rock classic "Gloria" with lines about boys humping parking meters and her lack of faith in Jesus. The comedy of John Belushi and Dan Aykroyd had found its analogue. [snip] From babel-list-owner Sat Mar 11 07:20:53 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2BFKrSk020050 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 07:20:53 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k2BFKrs7020049 for babel-list-obscured; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 07:20:53 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2BFKpwV020041 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 07:20:52 -0800 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id z31so903670nzd for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 07:20:50 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=I+NWTMGIhNG6K2PFC/ODZZe89NMUqrCuwwVHojGzxFHmhylZUiWeeTV/7XD2N14yVzcSa5xfNE6b8uyfr120inGfyM9rD3sefvVhcKeP3fN1aEsXZ/aFCCUM38bjJOmy602Iqt2FBb+V71yLHT5AKclmgwLy/QXXLTDKCU2V0qU= Received: by 10.64.233.2 with SMTP id f2mr1337593qbh; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 07:20:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.197.3 with HTTP; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 07:20:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6f10fa9d0603110720j2ae21c81gf91928da9bf2e00f> Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 07:20:49 -0800 From: "Dennis Moore" To: Babel-list Subject: 'Suddenly I See' by KT Tunstall MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by penguin.postmodern.com id k2BFKqwV020044 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ KT Tunstall New Single And Tour Dates http://www.ilikemusic.com/pop/kt_tunstall_tour_tickets-1460 (w/ link to video) [snip] KT [Scottish singer-songwriter] has now played live to over 150,000 people during her own sell-out tours, with 'Suddenly I See' becoming a particular favourite of her fans. "This song was inspired by the picture of Patti Smith on the Horses cover," says KT. "The black and white one with her in a man's suit with the jacket over her shoulder. I realised that this image had really stuck with me from seeing it years ago. I remember thinking, 'that's what I want to be when I grow up' (despite being in my mid-20s at the time.) You know, when growing up becomes much more about getting wise. I adore the sound of this song - it tickles my hillbilly leanings. We used this instrument called a cajon, it9s a Spanish slapbox, which gives it that junkyard acoustic feel." [snip] I checked the archives and did not see a mention of this, even though this seems to be from August 2005 (so why it came in a recent google alert, idunno). From babel-list-owner Sat Mar 11 07:26:45 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2BFQjjF020352 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 07:26:45 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k2BFQjti020351 for babel-list-obscured; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 07:26:45 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.198]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2BFQiVx020341 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 07:26:44 -0800 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so914828nzo for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 07:26:44 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=L13EoMDbZcPmfq57pUBr+5lKzP3kIFoLldbPn2Hd0ahQsOM5cChRubCg5HhWGeb/uPxCCQC6Zu+xWLe4Ce+Y7JyujK6elf1ajvX3NHcCyiKNgkybCqBzx/bjqDxDAmAQRaKDjSH4pg7fsUWxfIgVa5dfd7SXRYZJ7pieWa7286E= Received: by 10.64.241.8 with SMTP id o8mr1341138qbh; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 07:26:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.197.3 with HTTP; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 07:26:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6f10fa9d0603110726w74d5818o3e80bc2708c22f2e> Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 07:26:44 -0800 From: "Dennis Moore" To: Babel-list Subject: ...or scare people like Patti Smith (ob: RnR Hall of Fame) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by penguin.postmodern.com id k2BFQjVx020347 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ March 10, 2006, 2:48PM Meet the Rock and Roll hall of Fame class of 2006 By MALCOM X ABRAM Knight Ridder Newspapers http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ent/music/3714973.html (Intersesting article...only the one mention of P.) From babel-list-owner Sat Mar 11 07:41:06 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2BFf6sH020823 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 07:41:06 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k2BFf5AE020821 for babel-list-obscured; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 07:41:05 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.194]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2BFf4UM020815 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 07:41:04 -0800 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1236216wra for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 07:41:08 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=GpR19mLb/qzThkJ1xxK2sSGTjEAk7vOepskPhKk87RcWDpBRvzl6ozKQ/0Htb4x9Kw61FJL6ZOLaSuX9/L9xbA7uNb8nmgmYUqCDkkGDOF2YR+BVMCZ8VvDhByu33efOyQ9Fqxaeaqk+ObrwJ9yaTTPIF5bA7qcT0bOhdfKFI5I= Received: by 10.64.210.10 with SMTP id i10mr1347720qbg; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 07:41:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.197.3 with HTTP; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 07:41:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6f10fa9d0603110741w507307e2vf181958dcf4ac6f0> Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 07:41:08 -0800 From: "Dennis Moore" To: Babel-list Subject: [npc] Erica Quitzow - interesting new artist MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by penguin.postmodern.com id k2BFf5UM020817 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Sonic Collage Coquette The supreme extreme of Erica Quitzow By Sharon Nichols http://www.chronogram.com/issue/2006/03/arts/music/ [snip] She likens her work to a collage, layering and layeringMoog rumpus, classical string pudding, heavy metal fever, quirky distorted vox ("Take the pieces that felt inspired, felt interesting, and capture those pieces, try to put them together in a cohesive, songlike structure," she explains). This artist is unclassifiable. Part Rasputina, part Todd Rundgren. Patti Smith? Sure. Hole? Okay. Bach, anyone? It's unequivocally refreshing and dramatic. [snip] see also: http://www.myspace.com/quitzow Influences Joni Mitchel, The Pixies, The Beatles, Patti Smith, The Smiths, Led Zeplin, PJ Harvey, Eliot Smith, Tod Rundgren, The Shins. Sounds Like Peaches, The Faint, Rasputina, Nine Inch Nails, Helium, Mira, PJ Harvey, Patti Smith, Tod Rundgren. From babel-list-owner Sat Mar 11 08:00:27 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2BG0Mgj021597 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 08:00:27 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k2BG0M30021596 for babel-list-obscured; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 08:00:22 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.194]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2BG0KaJ021589 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 08:00:21 -0800 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i4so234267wra for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 08:00:25 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=icb3SfHd4UBr6pO24tkWF3y1vkmlDF8eg29443VNmNgj/FlOuwjikkAgdt2/7TCCFFqXgoDgEpOei7fSru/02oxgujYKu24gI6qoihRE/CJU1cSsOukd7/cvuM3PeUOB2b6XDokoHbgFpg1WNNfnnbmgRxrDn+lACH14uD/h0Ig= Received: by 10.64.178.15 with SMTP id a15mr1357454qbf; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 08:00:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.197.3 with HTTP; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 08:00:24 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6f10fa9d0603110800i757f9a96u85066601bf0416bd> Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 08:00:24 -0800 From: "Dennis Moore" To: Babel-list Subject: VOICE OF AMERICA article/interview MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by penguin.postmodern.com id k2BG0LaJ021591 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Rocker Patti Smith By Adam Phillips Washington DC 10 March 2006 http://www.voanews.com/english/AmericanLife/2006-03-10-voa51.cfm [snip] Smith's fans are among the most loyal in the business, even though she often deals with supposedly "uncool" subjects, like poetry and God. [snip] From babel-list-owner Sat Mar 11 08:14:39 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2BGEccc022125 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 08:14:39 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k2BGEblU022124 for babel-list-obscured; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 08:14:37 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2BGEa6S022119 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 08:14:37 -0800 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s18so1005904nze for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 08:14:37 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=ibkQ39YMXlrJdRGhmfQNbug+oq307hNSFBeQDh4bs//7qr+/nT9kT4HpvFCOKEsdz2SKe1ZT0o9Dq40zi+ATVTKi1JGNqv3f0GTkWbY8N91RHepcSpSBGYR/LqTllTzGeNaxqcHr6riHu1Kh4/DntbdfI7ragNIt4BHAd5cb36c= Received: by 10.65.234.10 with SMTP id l10mr250182qbr; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 08:14:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.197.3 with HTTP; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 08:14:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6f10fa9d0603110814i7e8f4aa2v5bec40f4ea8332fc> Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 08:14:37 -0800 From: "Dennis Moore" To: Babel-list Subject: (UN)MASKED at Envoy Gallery in NYC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by penguin.postmodern.com id k2BGEb6S022120 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Identity & Anonymity Basic human principles rear their heads in group photo show BY RACHAEL LIBERMAN Volume 5, Number 10 | March 9 - 15, 2006 http://www.gaycitynews.com/gcn_510/identity&anonymity.html [snip] Judy Linn's photography is an invitation to the Chelsea Hotel room that Patti Smith and Robert Mapplethorpe began sharing in 1971. Featuring pictures of Smith, Mapplethorpe and Sam Sheppard, Linn's black and white photography creates a voyeuristic view into the personal lives of these famous names. "Robert Mapplethorpe in bed at the Chelsea, #2" was a photo intended to help Mapplethorpe sell the jewelry he was making and ended up being a stylistic inspiration when he began his own career as a photographer. The playful photo shoot allowed Linn and Smith to experiment with different identities; Smith often liked to dress up as someone else, including Bob Dylan, and expected Linn to do the same. [snip] From babel-list-owner Sat Mar 11 12:01:01 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2BK0tbH030689 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 12:01:01 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k2BK0tEh030688 for babel-list-obscured; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 12:00:55 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [216.148.227.153]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2BK0nIv030678 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 12:00:54 -0800 Received: from xyz (c-24-7-76-159.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.7.76.159]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <20060311200052m13001ntm5e>; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 20:00:52 +0000 From: "J" To: Subject: RE: VOICE OF AMERICA article/interview Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 12:00:58 -0800 Message-ID: <000a01c64546$83d74bb0$6401a8c0> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 In-Reply-To: <6f10fa9d0603110800i757f9a96u85066601bf0416bd> Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Patti featured on the official international media arm of the U.S. government? Wonder what she thinks of that, especially as the Bush Administration has been moving to make it into a much cruder propaganda tool in the middle east. J > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-babel-list > [mailto:owner-babel-list] On Behalf Of Dennis Moore > Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 8:00 AM > To: Babel-list > Subject: VOICE OF AMERICA article/interview > > > Rocker Patti Smith > By Adam Phillips > Washington DC > 10 March 2006 > > http://www.voanews.com/english/AmericanLife/2006-03-10-voa51.cfm > > [snip] > > Smith's fans are among the most loyal in the business, even > though she often deals with supposedly "uncool" subjects, > like poetry and God. > > [snip] From babel-list-owner Sat Mar 11 12:21:50 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2BKLoIl031364 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 12:21:50 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k2BKLnLP031363 for babel-list-obscured; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 12:21:49 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from web81702.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web81702.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.199.166]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with SMTP id k2BKLmdm031358 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 12:21:48 -0800 Received: (qmail 51155 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Mar 2006 20:21:42 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=EGCtinNHt3DQpl6WXkvcEwrPOnhRik5sC6/Htj8j0GCdCVBi47o/7/zFpx8EvZHMiRhYTL8TJ68EGfyhkTZeRrlFURcDW/0vk3oUrKuOoRMjSYujPPdNsDzifWMg94SwjHh0z8nwjJGwOiwvoL2tZ0aiAhDksPkZFy8kYQ5JDgU= ; Message-ID: <20060311202142.51153.qmail> Received: from [69.109.250.202] by web81702.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 12:21:42 PST Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 12:21:42 -0800 (PST) From: Li Lightfoot Subject: RE: VOICE OF AMERICA article/interview To: J , babel-list In-Reply-To: <000a01c64546$83d74bb0$6401a8c0> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ It's a surprisingly good article, no? I'm amazed to see it there. Perhaps the G-word is what made it happen... but to mention Ho Chi Minh? How in the world did this slip by the censors? best, Li J wrote: Patti featured on the official international media arm of the U.S. government? Wonder what she thinks of that, especially as the Bush Administration has been moving to make it into a much cruder propaganda tool in the middle east. J > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-babel-list > [mailto:owner-babel-list] On Behalf Of Dennis Moore > Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 8:00 AM > To: Babel-list > Subject: VOICE OF AMERICA article/interview > > > Rocker Patti Smith > By Adam Phillips > Washington DC > 10 March 2006 > > http://www.voanews.com/english/AmericanLife/2006-03-10-voa51.cfm > > [snip] > > Smith's fans are among the most loyal in the business, even > though she often deals with supposedly "uncool" subjects, > like poetry and God. > > [snip] From babel-list-owner Sat Mar 11 15:59:45 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2BNxiDJ005555 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 15:59:44 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k2BNxist005554 for babel-list-obscured; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 15:59:44 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from imo-m17.mx.aol.com (imo-m17.mx.aol.com [64.12.138.207]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2BNxgJv005547 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 15:59:43 -0800 Received: from Poemsl1 by imo-m17.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.3.) id m.bd.6adb7045 (3866) for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 18:59:25 -0500 (EST) From: Poemsl1 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 18:59:25 EST Subject: Re: VOICE OF AMERICA article/interview To: babel-list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5300 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ In a message dated 3/11/2006 11:02:17 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, clayboy56 writes: http://www.voanews.com/english/AmericanLife/2006-03-10-voa51.cfm This is great, but...... Richard Mapplethorpe? lol- Seena From babel-list-owner Sat Mar 11 18:23:18 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2C2NIkI010194 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 18:23:18 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k2C2NH3T010193 for babel-list-obscured; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 18:23:17 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from web30206.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30206.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.89]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with SMTP id k2C2NG46010185 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 18:23:17 -0800 Received: (qmail 61915 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Mar 2006 02:23:13 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=4GdtjK1zslJTx8iuELBPSCj8ip+1mEYDb2jGmogytm8WxD87gffXOfZGX1VeY0xGVMY9MA3IGJIH1bVi0yhtuYv1VRFCyvSlApEurcfklgAO/c2dH5saRvwjShXonT/EiYZtV/WC/81uD93s+knj+/l5qGwdUz/wT08PUwePfqI= ; Message-ID: <20060312022313.61913.qmail> Received: from [68.65.87.151] by web30206.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 18:23:13 PST Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 18:23:13 -0800 (PST) From: CBM Subject: Jack-the-Cat & Dreaming Shelly -- NPC To: Babelogue MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ I am visiting NYC the week of APRIL 1-8, and would love to finally meet you both and to meet Shelly's famous Maine Coons. Haven't been back to NYC since 1986 and as a former east village punk, I am horrified by the news of obscene gentrification in the east village and a Starbucks on every block...(Smile) Would like to hear your perspective... E-mail off list at gadismanis1 --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. From babel-list-owner Sat Mar 11 19:08:42 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2C38fwR011687 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 19:08:41 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k2C38f5d011686 for babel-list-obscured; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 19:08:41 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91.asp.att.net [204.127.203.211]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2C38dPR011679 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 19:08:40 -0800 Received: from sccqwbc14 (scommcenter14.asp.att.net[204.127.203.174]) by sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91) with SMTP id <20060312030834m9100o11bpe>; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 03:08:34 +0000 Received: from [198.133.105.244] by sccqwbc14; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 03:08:33 +0000 From: rlking To: babel-list Subject: Re: VOICE OF AMERICA article/interview Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 03:08:33 +0000 Message-Id: <031220060308.5820.441390B10005EB07000016BC219791280203010CD2079C080C03BF09020705049D> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Feb 28 2006) X-Authenticated-Sender: cmxraW5nQG1jaHNpLmNvbQ== Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Good article - but some of the dates are wrong aren't they? BTN wasn't in 1983, and "Horses" came out in 1975, not 1974. Extremely nitpicky I know but I guess I am like that.. > Rocker Patti Smith > By Adam Phillips > Washington DC > 10 March 2006 > > http://www.voanews.com/english/AmericanLife/2006-03-10-voa51.cfm > > [snip] > > Smith's fans are among the most loyal in the business, even though she > often deals with supposedly "uncool" subjects, like poetry and God. > > [snip] From babel-list-owner Sat Mar 11 20:38:57 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2C4cv3C014535 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 20:38:57 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k2C4cvvG014534 for babel-list-obscured; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 20:38:57 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.194]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2C4coq9014528 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 20:38:56 -0800 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i24so938859wra for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 20:38:51 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=LVzoF3mScC6muU4sqoLrXcorGCkWVvv1IcnTqJDLpXcCRgEPMCtTu7t4hLtw865a1iKtAOfp+VWdwG3e+0xyrVeee+2frdjnE8n875Q/b7UAjidAHjK4NWJ4ZoXlYxSZI7owXlbJUn9gGRE3msQESV+UgNZve4zP6qEdNoVb7kI= Received: by 10.64.178.15 with SMTP id a15mr1504061qbf; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 20:38:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.197.3 with HTTP; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 20:38:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6f10fa9d0603112038x2dc01f50q1baa4e907dc0c421> Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 20:38:51 -0800 From: "Dennis Moore" To: Babel-list , EternalCafe Subject: If you see me standing on my head at my next Patti show..... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by penguin.postmodern.com id k2C4cuq9014530 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ ...you'll know why. (This just HAD to be posted in its entirety!) unfolding peace. Always, Dennis Hallelujah and Namaste By JESSIE TORRISI Urban Studies Published: March 12, 2006 http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/12/nyregion/thecity/12yoga.html THREE flights above the rumbling traffic of the Avenue of the Americas, well-sculptured women and men rushed into Dana Flynn's Sunday yoga class just before noon. Within minutes, they were lined up on mats, legs crossed, backs straight, being led in chant as they stared at mandarin and fuchsia walls. "Hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm," Ms. Flynn intoned. "Hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm," her students responded. This was Sunday soul yoga at Laughing Lotus on West 19th Street in the Flatiron District, or, as Ms. Flynn calls it, "Sunday morning revival." For some New Yorkers, this sanctuary is as close as they will ever come to church. Ms. Flynn is O.K. with that. "People don't want religion, but they want yoga," she said the other day after a session in which she melded vinyasa, an ancient flowing yoga, with gospel hymns and sermons inspired by the music. "It just feels natural. All of it is to exalt us." The class had begun with the sound of "Amazing Grace" by the Blind Boys of Alabama flooding the studio. Soon, 45 students were sweating through warrior poses and upward and downward dogs. Within minutes, the 16-foot windows were steamed over. As students wobbled slightly in a tough pretzel-like position, their eyes gazing skyward, Ms. Flynn raised the volume of the stereo. "Let the music fill you with emotion!" she shouted. Bob Marley responded by crooning, "Thank you, Lord!" Ms. Flynn leads by example. Students have called her the drill sergeant of love and the Janis Joplin of yoga. "Dana has a way of reminding you of the greatness of life," said Nancy Hess, a guitarist with the rock band Stereovision and a class regular. "That's why people go to church on Sundays, to be reminded we're all part of something." Ms. Flynn, who is 44, came to yoga-as-church from Wall Street. In the mid-80's, she left her job as a stockbroker at Smith Barney to open Trixie's, a Hell's Kitchen hotspot that featured drag queen waitresses and an amateur night at which Madonna was a regular. In 1999, she and Jasmine Tarkeshi, her partner both at home and at the office, opened Laughing Lotus. At the Sunday morning session, Ms. Flynn delivered lines from the Sufi poet Hafiz, and then some words of her own, with all the fervor and emotion of a fiery preacher from the pulpit: "You've heard people say, 'I been saved?' Well, yoga saves you  from living the wrong life, from a bad attitude, from negative thoughts that don't express who you really are." The students stood on their heads, then rested on their backs like corpses. The voice of the rocker Patti Smith wafted over them: "Everything is holy. Everybody's holy. Everywhere is holy." From babel-list-owner Sat Mar 11 21:20:16 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2C5KFoK015592 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 21:20:16 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k2C5KF1U015591 for babel-list-obscured; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 21:20:15 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2C5KDJ0015583 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 21:20:14 -0800 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id r28so1036276nza for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 21:20:14 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=bdPSCK6BJX0oa06NoGGReBYH3TwC9bCQtV7qcgQzBMnWFqn1guYo+piIXRh7J9kuaRl5Jfe44zH15+xmuOP5FPDjnxbMvuQFPEe94ttGn+BUeFBwBSPsbzerKm7FEmdAOCk0w8fjym+iuJcurwky3lZKXrZSjT803NmGT3ybdf0= Received: by 10.64.195.15 with SMTP id s15mr1506102qbf; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 21:20:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.197.3 with HTTP; Sat, 11 Mar 2006 21:20:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6f10fa9d0603112120k21d0c37dq60d691f65d0d8d0b> Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 21:20:12 -0800 From: "Dennis Moore" To: J , Babel-list Subject: Cooper Union performance report MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by penguin.postmodern.com id k2C5KFJ0015586 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ It was early, but "interview" is so obviously inaccurate. So, yeah, me too. On 3/11/06, J wrote: > Patti featured on the official international media arm of the U.S. > government? > > Wonder what she thinks of that, especially as the Bush Administration has > been moving to make it into a much cruder propaganda tool in the middle > east. > J > > > -----Original Message----- > > Subject: VOICE OF AMERICA article/interview From babel-list-owner Sun Mar 12 04:57:09 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2CCv9Iu007393 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 04:57:09 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k2CCv8aq007392 for babel-list-obscured; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 04:57:08 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from Front-end2.KRONOS.COM (front-end2.kronos.com [158.228.2.30]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2CCv3A1007367 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 04:57:04 -0800 Received: from exchg-f.KRONOS.COM ([158.228.0.199]) by Front-end2.KRONOS.COM with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Sun, 12 Mar 2006 07:57:01 -0500 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: RE: If you see me standing on my head at my next Patti show..... Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 07:54:12 -0500 Message-ID: Thread-Topic: If you see me standing on my head at my next Patti show..... Thread-Index: AcZFjxcr6Dst4ZZ6REagHPJBoYH0CwARPjBW From: "Gart, Mitchell" To: "Dennis Moore" , "Babel-list" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Mar 2006 12:57:01.0160 (UTC) FILETIME=[74343680:01C645D4] X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ That's GREAT. I wish my Sunday yoga class would play those songs. But on the other hand the thought of intense Manhattanites rushing to get to their yoga class on time still makes me glad I don't live in the big city. Namaste, - Mitch ________________________________ From: owner-babel-list on behalf of Dennis Moore Sent: Sat 3/11/2006 11:38 PM To: Babel-list; EternalCafe Subject: If you see me standing on my head at my next Patti show..... ...you'll know why. (This just HAD to be posted in its entirety!) unfolding peace. Always, Dennis Hallelujah and Namaste By JESSIE TORRISI Urban Studies Published: March 12, 2006 http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/12/nyregion/thecity/12yoga.html THREE flights above the rumbling traffic of the Avenue of the Americas, well-sculptured women and men rushed into Dana Flynn's Sunday yoga class just before noon. Within minutes, they were lined up on mats, legs crossed, backs straight, being led in chant as they stared at mandarin and fuchsia walls. "Hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm," Ms. Flynn intoned. "Hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm," her students responded. This was Sunday soul yoga at Laughing Lotus on West 19th Street in the Flatiron District, or, as Ms. Flynn calls it, "Sunday morning revival." For some New Yorkers, this sanctuary is as close as they will ever come to church. Ms. Flynn is O.K. with that. "People don't want religion, but they want yoga," she said the other day after a session in which she melded vinyasa, an ancient flowing yoga, with gospel hymns and sermons inspired by the music. "It just feels natural. All of it is to exalt us." The class had begun with the sound of "Amazing Grace" by the Blind Boys of Alabama flooding the studio. Soon, 45 students were sweating through warrior poses and upward and downward dogs. Within minutes, the 16-foot windows were steamed over. As students wobbled slightly in a tough pretzel-like position, their eyes gazing skyward, Ms. Flynn raised the volume of the stereo. "Let the music fill you with emotion!" she shouted. Bob Marley responded by crooning, "Thank you, Lord!" Ms. Flynn leads by example. Students have called her the drill sergeant of love and the Janis Joplin of yoga. "Dana has a way of reminding you of the greatness of life," said Nancy Hess, a guitarist with the rock band Stereovision and a class regular. "That's why people go to church on Sundays, to be reminded we're all part of something." Ms. Flynn, who is 44, came to yoga-as-church from Wall Street. In the mid-80's, she left her job as a stockbroker at Smith Barney to open Trixie's, a Hell's Kitchen hotspot that featured drag queen waitresses and an amateur night at which Madonna was a regular. In 1999, she and Jasmine Tarkeshi, her partner both at home and at the office, opened Laughing Lotus. At the Sunday morning session, Ms. Flynn delivered lines from the Sufi poet Hafiz, and then some words of her own, with all the fervor and emotion of a fiery preacher from the pulpit: "You've heard people say, 'I been saved?' Well, yoga saves you  from living the wrong life, from a bad attitude, from negative thoughts that don't express who you really are." The students stood on their heads, then rested on their backs like corpses. The voice of the rocker Patti Smith wafted over them: "Everything is holy. Everybody's holy. Everywhere is holy." From babel-list-owner Sun Mar 12 08:47:35 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2CGlZlU016659 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 08:47:35 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k2CGlZ4R016658 for babel-list-obscured; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 08:47:35 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from web54302.mail.yahoo.com (web54302.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.49.112]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with SMTP id k2CGlXrQ016652 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 08:47:34 -0800 Received: (qmail 66970 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Mar 2006 16:47:28 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ReAFrJtOWfjQfMKyUTsRze+JE5pZ6sZoBSmYepsWNcmYDNRFGLz7r9q+xEft3yZL+P2QY2W/zXTi1Pc045oJOXInpPz/02JqQVHP065TnKZqq04wnqMZD84oAcFOA0QwfXcGyCGRdDFlOKsUksIbREJliubTC1gNnVw26J7GChc= ; Message-ID: <20060312164728.66968.qmail> Received: from [66.68.134.168] by web54302.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 12 Mar 2006 08:47:28 PST Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 08:47:28 -0800 (PST) From: robin dunn Subject: Re: Jack-the-Cat & Dreaming Shelly -- NPC To: Babelogue In-Reply-To: <20060312022313.61913.qmail> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ i also have a trip planned for nyc (june), and have also heard "everything is gone, everything's been gentrified." what is still cool in nyc? where to go? r --- CBM wrote: > I am visiting NYC the week of APRIL 1-8, and > would love to finally meet you both and to meet > Shelly's famous Maine Coons. > Haven't been back to NYC since 1986 and as a > former east village punk, I am horrified by the news > of obscene gentrification in the east village and a > Starbucks on every block...(Smile) Would like to > hear your perspective... > E-mail off list at gadismanis1 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From babel-list-owner Mon Mar 13 05:47:20 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2DDlKpX026919 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 05:47:20 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k2DDlKWB026918 for babel-list-obscured; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 05:47:20 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from ussmtp02.scientificgames.com (ussmtp02.scientificgames.com [65.5.3.6]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2DDlJIc026907 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 05:47:19 -0800 Received: by ussmtp02.scientificgames.com with XWall v3.35 ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 08:47:21 -0500 From: "Jucha, Gary" To: "babel-list" Subject: Starting A Weed - BAM Recordings Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 08:47:19 -0500 X-Assembled-By: XWall v3.35 Message-ID: <8B73472E4268D44AA115AFB3A452013208729953> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Somehow I've been lucky enough to get a copy of both of Patti's shows at BAM last year and I'm willing to start a weed. This performance features Lenny, Jay Dee and Tony supplemented by Tom Verlaine, Flea and Jessie Smith. Both shows are two discs with the first disc featuring Horses in its entirety and the second disc containing the second half of the program, and an encore. Songs covered during the second half include Hendrix's Are You Experienced?, Beneath The Southern Cross, R 'n' R Nigger, Pissing In A River and others. The second sets vary somewhat. For instance Wild Leaves is played 11/30/05 and PHTP on 12/1/05. Personally I think the 12/1/05 show is better than what they did in London because the band is playing it for the third time. So I'm willing to burn these for 4 people who are willing to continue the weed plus one person who is unable to do so. I'll also do up to 5 straight trades. Gary This communication (including any attachments) is intended for the use of the intended recipient(s) only and may contain information that is confidential, privileged or legally protected. 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From babel-list-owner Mon Mar 13 14:15:58 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2DMFvUe011242 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 14:15:58 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k2DMFvEg011241 for babel-list-obscured; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 14:15:57 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from ussmtp02.scientificgames.com (ussmtp02.scientificgames.com [65.5.3.6]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2DMFtmQ011232 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 14:15:56 -0800 Received: by ussmtp02.scientificgames.com with XWall v3.35 ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 17:15:57 -0500 From: "Jucha, Gary" To: "babel-list" Subject: BAM Weed - Closed Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 17:15:57 -0500 X-Assembled-By: XWall v3.35 Message-ID: <8B73472E4268D44AA115AFB3A452013208729D8B> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ The BAM weed I started this morning is now closed. 5 fellow Patti fans have agreed to reweed them when they get them. 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From babel-list-owner Mon Mar 13 15:04:38 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2DN4cYN012770 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:04:38 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k2DN4cH6012769 for babel-list-obscured; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:04:38 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from web54302.mail.yahoo.com (web54302.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.49.112]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with SMTP id k2DN4aYG012758 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:04:37 -0800 Received: (qmail 31914 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Mar 2006 23:04:31 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=V//fDV1jckK3VhkOBJ4Bl8cJiH54qa7oqlGnMWozozTDtPeCdfx8nYp4Qg6LBUEFAF4ZflWyvGwVh2IYJAAQ/fY2lHvFgK50rHWT/2KPfvHAOQX6HtPVx/jxj/0Hw0CIYruuDsJAniSfKJ8fPn8s6Xa5NFel625/eOzhtNigFCs= ; Message-ID: <20060313230431.31909.qmail> Received: from [68.92.180.42] by web54302.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:04:31 PST Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:04:31 -0800 (PST) From: robin dunn Subject: Re: BAM Weed - Closed To: "babel-list" In-Reply-To: <8B73472E4268D44AA115AFB3A452013208729D8B> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ it would be nice to see these shows at dime, if someone can get them up there. r --- "Jucha, Gary" wrote: > The BAM weed I started this morning is now closed. > > > > 5 fellow Patti fans have agreed to reweed them when > they get them. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From babel-list-owner Mon Mar 13 15:16:07 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2DNG7h2013217 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:16:07 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k2DNG7pJ013216 for babel-list-obscured; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:16:07 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from web37315.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web37315.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.87.53]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with SMTP id k2DNG5II013207 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:16:06 -0800 Received: (qmail 41930 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Mar 2006 23:16:03 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=QJwIPzlO6ss13i/OM3LkFB57CM+XlWFNan3+mLuWDaanF/Nr0xQuMrE9FEJp25oFTciq8rt8QBuhrfNB0nP70vQoK8R4+h0VNfCQ2FuCK66B1z8yfv8ctHmQz9w0As7JZyU//ZrQHuWW+PsgRJzHhbYdb897FFsLeBmq7TdGrQg= ; Message-ID: <20060313231603.41928.qmail> Received: from [24.5.197.252] by web37315.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:16:03 PST Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:16:03 -0800 (PST) From: skywalker Subject: more BAM offerings to come To: babel-list, eternalcafe Cc: rdunnrn MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Now that Gary's offering has closed, I am able to announce an upcoming alternate opportunity that has been in the works for a number of days. A friend of mine who got his BAM discs directly from the taper plans another distribution in the near future. His plan is for a number of weeds to be launched, with me to simultaneously torrent the shows on Dime. Artwork is under construction; he is currently checking and copying discs. This is just to announce my friend's plan; we applaud Gary for sharing this material so generously, and hope no one minds that we go ahead with our plans too. Peace and light, coyote At 02:15 PM 3/13/2006, Jucha, Gary wrote: >The BAM weed I started this morning is now closed. > >5 fellow Patti fans have agreed to reweed them when they get them. > >Thanks, Gary > >At 05:47 AM 3/13/2006, Jucha, Gary wrote: >>Somehow I've been lucky enough to get a copy of both of Patti's shows >>at BAM last year and I'm willing to start a weed. >> >>This performance features Lenny, Jay Dee and Tony supplemented by Tom >>Verlaine, Flea and Jessie Smith. >> >>Both shows are two discs with the first disc featuring Horses in its >>entirety and the second disc containing the second half of the >>program, and an encore. >> >>Songs covered during the second half include Hendrix's Are You >>Experienced?, Beneath The Southern Cross, R 'n' R Nigger, Pissing In A >>River and others. The second sets vary somewhat. For instance Wild >>Leaves is played 11/30/05 and PHTP on 12/1/05. >> >>Personally I think the 12/1/05 show is better than what they did in >>London because the band is playing it for the third time. >> >>So I'm willing to burn these for 4 people who are willing to continue >>the weed plus one person who is unable to do so. >> >>I'll also do up to 5 straight trades. >> >>Gary __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From babel-list-owner Mon Mar 13 17:16:53 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2E1Gmv9017365 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 17:16:53 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k2E1GmpJ017364 for babel-list-obscured; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 17:16:48 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from mx2.gloryroad.net (mx2.gloryroad.net [216.228.97.35]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2E1Gk8I017359 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 17:16:47 -0800 Received: by mx2.gloryroad.net (Postfix, from userid 503) id 19BD93B3B; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:15:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from fpo.gloryroad.net (fpo.gloryroad.net [216.228.97.45]) by mx2.gloryroad.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F41D53B48 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:15:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from IBM55704AC93B3 (opop1-117.gloryroad.net [216.228.104.117]) by fpo.gloryroad.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8A457FC00D for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:14:26 -0500 (EST) From: "Amy Edge" To: Subject: BAM Shows Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:16:26 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-index: AcZHBOnSX3jERrYeSTOt4iJwaHC3pg== Message-Id: <20060314011426.B8A457FC00D> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on mx2.gloryroad.net X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_90_100,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=3.0.4 X-GLORYROAD.NET: mail filter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Is there any chance that someone can post the shows as MP3s to a webpage for download? Amy From babel-list-owner Tue Mar 14 06:53:16 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2EErFPU010922 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 06:53:16 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k2EErFuS010921 for babel-list-obscured; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 06:53:15 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2EErE4n010916 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 06:53:14 -0800 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i31so1451426wra for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 06:53:13 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=tsQRYp+8lFVAEvou8MZXpPwE2+o2AmCgxRQSNqwNZehfreRJfZfZ/jcZiXZAMyhdRHeF+9tAIxa+NC4Gix3mkx/XHP2gyhiCf1xa0K5KugY71vzys9cCBr/QzkDWU2wyaoZvt68Q5NkzXGx+AOlv3uqiYYPZ/R+mLoGpjwFSns8= Received: by 10.64.210.18 with SMTP id i18mr2887976qbg; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 06:53:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.197.4 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 06:53:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6f10fa9d0603140653s1e730944yd691b175aec942f7> Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 06:53:13 -0800 From: "Dennis Moore" To: Babel-list Subject: [npc] Blondie - more yammerin re: the RnR HoFame MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by penguin.postmodern.com id k2EErF4n010917 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Hey anyone know what's up? I heard that Blondie "barred" three of the original band members from playing last night.... From babel-list-owner Tue Mar 14 07:01:37 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2EF1bTO011238 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 07:01:37 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k2EF1bNl011236 for babel-list-obscured; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 07:01:37 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from web82005.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web82005.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.178.249]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with SMTP id k2EF1YBr011227 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 07:01:36 -0800 Received: (qmail 36835 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Mar 2006 15:01:24 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=ameritech.net; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=K9FN2HzCLA/GzGPjdkizVyp9xKsJbR/BPIQ2+o+QZKCMxhiu6Gj0JmEG/tSoOptg0oMoLyAj3s5EXNDHjJ1fnl0IArlXcPYCvzYTmtjE9c5BflL+eW9DfcyJpDa2+xgKZCj/ed6d9fGLDujOvdBVZ08OVkLFqJyJR3m1aKXBzmk= ; Message-ID: <20060314150123.36820.qmail> Received: from [69.214.201.62] by web82005.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 07:01:23 PST Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 07:01:23 -0800 (PST) From: TOM MOHR Subject: Re: [npc] Blondie - more yammerin re: the RnR HoFame To: Babel-list In-Reply-To: <6f10fa9d0603140653s1e730944yd691b175aec942f7> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ There are various stories online, including this: http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/showbiz/articles/21977234?source=Evening%20Standard >> But it was, to say the least, an awkward reunion. The current bandmates, Harry, Chris Stein and Clem Burke, barely acknowledged their former colleagues Frank Infante and Nigel Harrison, who unsuccessfully sued to rejoin the band, and Gary Valentine, also involved in another dispute. << Dennis Moore wrote: Hey anyone know what's up? I heard that Blondie "barred" three of the original band members from playing last night.... From babel-list-owner Tue Mar 14 08:55:26 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2EGtLg8014750 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:55:26 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k2EGtLbX014749 for babel-list-obscured; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:55:21 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.205]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2EGtJT4014744 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:55:20 -0800 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 55so1886156wri for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:55:22 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=F5ecR87rf1VqWJXI8retgoDt5TI4lcvwCjatBc1BVs5z01NDXYTtS9VRvmrJvPfItgFshquxFXu+PtYx8g8CZ7ea1LcuOujosvI/Z+UgLP7BEsChA4CGTmvXYvFTNX5kgRGPIwsS3dawLV5vwj1H3GzBYq59wwbwBuD+LcCIiv0= Received: by 10.64.181.16 with SMTP id d16mr3006340qbf; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:55:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.197.4 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:55:22 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6f10fa9d0603140855u2270c485mc14d45c788f4bb3a> Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:55:22 -0800 From: "Dennis Moore" To: "TOM MOHR" Subject: Re: [npc] Blondie - more yammerin re: the RnR HoFame Cc: Babel-list In-Reply-To: <20060314150123.36820.qmail> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 References: <6f10fa9d0603140653s1e730944yd691b175aec942f7> <20060314150123.36820.qmail> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by penguin.postmodern.com id k2EGtKT4014745 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ On 3/14/06, TOM MOHR wrote: > There are various stories online, [snip] I'd found mention about the suit in 1999 (which I had forgotten about). However, I have yet to find any good/detailed information about the case, its resolution and the parties' positions...let alone the Valentine dispute. In any case, looking at various song credits by "Blondie Music Inc." material it all seems rather bizarre and petty. My respect for Debbie has waxed and wained over the years, right now it I am up in the air over this one. (Maybe she did deserve to be slapped afterall. lol.) From babel-list-owner Tue Mar 14 09:42:36 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2EHgaHb016289 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:42:36 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k2EHga6s016287 for babel-list-obscured; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:42:36 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2EHgYBv016281 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:42:35 -0800 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 13so1546352nzp for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:42:37 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=OqZlmscQycc65WGbhvDJusqRSJPq2JXvi+VXBRX7G7aHgauruSGXN2tgNtn1u3plbs4IIh+ilJhN5edpYj6G66WA5zMrvdM/4Q7NyDph+BN7BsyaKdOcHhERg42Z8rNBBWGVFrIo8qrC+51l4N0McjiHPX0HOPsqxVkF8Gxe0lE= Received: by 10.65.254.13 with SMTP id g13mr3045713qbs; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:42:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.197.4 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:42:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6f10fa9d0603140942y59ae043buc6e2422be27e858> Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:42:37 -0800 From: "Dennis Moore" To: Babel-list Subject: Re: [npc] Blondie - more yammerin re: the RnR HoFame In-Reply-To: <6f10fa9d0603140855u2270c485mc14d45c788f4bb3a> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 References: <6f10fa9d0603140653s1e730944yd691b175aec942f7> <20060314150123.36820.qmail> <6f10fa9d0603140855u2270c485mc14d45c788f4bb3a> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by penguin.postmodern.com id k2EHgZBv016283 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ >From what I can determine so far, the suit (which was denied by the judge for the individuals but was allowed as co-owners of BMInc) was over the use of "Blondie" when the band reformed. So obviously Infante and Burke lost. (Did it come down to simply that they did not have a controlling interest in BMInc.?) But positing it as them "suing to rejoin the band," has me confused. With all the industry 'chatter' it is hard to find an in depth report of any kind about the case. Never mind the story behind the story, which I suppose only they know (and of which there are likely at least 5 different versions). And, even though I don't actually care that much, I am still curious. For example: Did she ever make any statements as to why they were not asked back? I suppose it is the artist's/artists' prerogative as to who is in "your" band...so I assume that is what the legal question revolved around. From what I have garnered so far I think I would have ruled the other way myself. Maybe if she had legally changed her name to "Blondie" I would see it the other way. Anyway, when I read this morning that they were actually on stage and what happened I thought it was a _sad moment_ in RnR history - it seems that is a legacy of the Hall of Fame itself, eh? Kind of interesting in the context of Patti Smith vs./& PSG and the HoFame.....so are the PSG a legal entity? I sure hope that doesn't lead to a bunch of "shit" in the future! It would likely break my heart. From babel-list-owner Tue Mar 14 10:37:12 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2EIbBb0018107 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:37:12 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k2EIbBUh018106 for babel-list-obscured; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:37:11 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.203]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2EIb8wC018100 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:37:10 -0800 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i28so1475724wra for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:37:07 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=N5pBnI0j9H+CXS4NqTGXDmrkC/12fEs7PGxUqiwMnmrBaH9tB9QMqUvnWEaDNwMYt+plQq05+cy5nksQld061sLhKscofaRyI8KFkU0QSrS58t2h7JwgNnonBq8kawSVFxrs56RjyT6cbg5ojIECbFrdr0EOKtsDEzNdZHy71Kk= Received: by 10.65.234.10 with SMTP id l10mr2001390qbr; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:37:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.197.4 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:37:07 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6f10fa9d0603141037t764cdd54h996ec14b18d5ce10> Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:37:07 -0800 From: "Dennis Moore" To: Babel-list Subject: Re: [npc] Blondie - more yammerin re: the RnR HoFame In-Reply-To: <6f10fa9d0603140942y59ae043buc6e2422be27e858> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 References: <6f10fa9d0603140653s1e730944yd691b175aec942f7> <20060314150123.36820.qmail> <6f10fa9d0603140855u2270c485mc14d45c788f4bb3a> <6f10fa9d0603140942y59ae043buc6e2422be27e858> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by penguin.postmodern.com id k2EIbAwC018101 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Now I wonder also if it would be different if Burke and Infante had not given up their rights to material to BMInc...would they at least have been able to deny "Blondie" the current use of their songs? It reminds me of when Johnette Napolitano was talking about song copyrights and control at RockrGrl, cautioning song writers, but saying also something like 'if Cheryl Crow wants to do one of your songs she's going to do one of your songs." Ever since I've wondered about the covers of PSG material and how that plays out/is determined. For example, did Patti and/or Lenny want Marilyn Manson to do RnRN? What is the record company's [Arista's] role and does it depend on the contract? From babel-list-owner Tue Mar 14 11:11:02 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2EJB1aP019229 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 11:11:02 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k2EJB191019228 for babel-list-obscured; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 11:11:01 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from [192.168.0.100] (heathrow.postmodern.com [216.240.39.14]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2EJAxX9019222 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 11:11:00 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) In-Reply-To: <6f10fa9d0603141037t764cdd54h996ec14b18d5ce10> References: <6f10fa9d0603140653s1e730944yd691b175aec942f7> <20060314150123.36820.qmail> <6f10fa9d0603140855u2270c485mc14d45c788f4bb3a> <6f10fa9d0603140942y59ae043buc6e2422be27e858> <6f10fa9d0603141037t764cdd54h996ec14b18d5ce10> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <9143A1EE-DFB2-4486-88A2-D7030B28EF4E> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Michael C. Berch" Subject: Re: [npc] Blondie - more yammerin re: the RnR HoFame Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 11:10:59 -0800 To: Babel-list X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Under U.S. copyright law, anyone may record and distribute a cover of someone else's already-released song. This is provided for by the Compulsory License section of the copyright code, 17 USC 115. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode17/ usc_sec_17_00000115----000-.html The covering artist pays the copyright holder (that's the songwriter [individual or group] or a music publisher who bought the rights, not the record label or copyright holder of the original sound recording) a fixed royalty based on a statutory scheme. A good write-up on this is a "how-to" from CDBaby: http://www.cdbaby.net/dd-covers -- Michael C. Berch mcb On Mar 14, 2006, at 10:37 AM, Dennis Moore wrote: > Now I wonder also if it would be different if Burke and Infante had > not given up their rights to material to BMInc...would they at least > have been able to deny "Blondie" the current use of their songs? > > It reminds me of when Johnette Napolitano was talking about song > copyrights and control at RockrGrl, cautioning song writers, but > saying also something like 'if Cheryl Crow wants to do one of your > songs she's going to do one of your songs." > > Ever since I've wondered about the covers of PSG material and how that > plays out/is determined. For example, did Patti and/or Lenny want > Marilyn Manson to do RnRN? What is the record company's [Arista's] > role and does it depend on the contract? From babel-list-owner Tue Mar 14 12:05:53 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2EK5rTN020925 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 12:05:53 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k2EK5rV4020924 for babel-list-obscured; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 12:05:53 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.198]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2EK5k5l020915 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 12:05:52 -0800 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i1so1772778nzh for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 12:05:46 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=P2l0N3vDaxncT0TXm9LN//KSkvRhFYau+70CwBAo46pgPRf+mvHoX3+NGMtdplKZK+28BWuqoxG4sDYFyuPnK8ydIQajELppNL3vHcBuSM5IJag02P3PS+sNJdEp7smPdIhTgJ9AS8BSLpNQ0lQ8vOzisV5sq4RPwsTxHyNPRy4= Received: by 10.64.253.14 with SMTP id a14mr246958qbi; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 12:05:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.197.4 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 12:05:45 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6f10fa9d0603141205l32a9699by7dca7e54a1bcf991> Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 12:05:45 -0800 From: "Dennis Moore" To: Babel-list Subject: Re: [npc] Blondie - more yammerin re: the RnR HoFame; redux: nevermind/RnR Nigger MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by penguin.postmodern.com id k2EK5q5l020918 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ > > It reminds me of when Johnette Napolitano was talking about song > > copyrights and control at RockrGrl, cautioning song writers, but > > saying also something like 'if Cheryl Crow wants to do one of your > > songs she's going to do one of your songs." Now I'm pretty sure Johnette was directing her comments in the Q&A to song writers who do not produce their own works. (Not that she needs me to clear her from appearing to be [as] ignorant.) Okay, let me rephrase my question to redeem myself and bring it to a bit on-topic.... Has either Patti or Lenny ever made any comments about MM's cover? ps: "Hanging on the Telephone" happens to be playing on comcast this minute. I'm rockin' out - lol. From babel-list-owner Tue Mar 14 22:39:46 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2F6dkt2007988 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 22:39:46 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k2F6djQ8007987 for babel-list-obscured; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 22:39:45 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [216.148.227.151]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2F6djqA007980 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 22:39:45 -0800 Received: from xyz (c-24-7-76-159.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.7.76.159]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <20060315063941m11001m10ce>; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 06:39:42 +0000 From: "J" To: "'Dennis Moore'" , "'Babel-list'" Subject: RE: [npc] Blondie - more yammerin re: the RnR HoFame; redux: nevermind/RnR Nigger Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 22:39:40 -0800 Message-ID: <001001c647fb$3ce96550$6401a8c0> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 In-Reply-To: <6f10fa9d0603141205l32a9699by7dca7e54a1bcf991> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by penguin.postmodern.com id k2F6djqA007983 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ > ps: "Hanging on the Telephone" happens to be playing on > comcast this minute. I'm rockin' out - lol. > Which is itself a cover. The original was recorded by San Francisco-based The Nerves in 1976 or 1977. Much less produced than Blondie's version, the original rocks. ________________ J From babel-list-owner Wed Mar 15 09:39:39 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2FHddTE026648 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 09:39:39 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k2FHddlQ026647 for babel-list-obscured; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 09:39:39 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.203]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2FHdTu3026628 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 09:39:38 -0800 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 4so227144nzn for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 09:39:41 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=S702KlPvjVBmHGR2ZoJ5awv6hHM3meXTai+50J8hiMaieXDvWVHr6yDHhes5fgUdKBNEDHuMWBxjSzVpN+jyBut4UCxj4nhonR+mU9xb9IW1Ge4OJ1UAAIrDtyYVztWfxyZqdHV/W6pkTJMXFDhSSuH7vH/870KACpgNIlQgpT4= Received: by 10.65.100.4 with SMTP id c4mr10668qbm; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 09:39:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.243.2 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 09:39:40 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 17:39:40 +0000 From: "Andrew F Wilson" To: Babel-list Subject: Re: Patti Smith on the Return of the Tie In-Reply-To: <20060307023326.53072.qmail> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 References: <20060307023326.53072.qmail> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by penguin.postmodern.com id k2FHdcu2026642 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Patti's theme for the year seems to be fashion. There is also an interesting interview with her in the current issue of an English fashion mag called ANOTHER MAGAZINE. It is distributed worldwide, so should be able to find it locally in places that sell fashion magazines. (It is the Spring 2006 issue, with Winona Ryder on the cover.) Patti is not mentioned on the cover or in the index, but there is an interview, great photos and handwritten items from pp 208-220. Some of the article and some of the pictures can be found at www.anothermag.com - look for the current issue, then under "people" - but there is more in the print version. Kind regards Andrew From babel-list-owner Wed Mar 15 09:39:31 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2FHdVeS026638 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 09:39:31 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k2FHdVEb026637 for babel-list-obscured; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 09:39:31 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.203]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2FHdTu2026628 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 09:39:30 -0800 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 4so227144nzn for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 09:39:31 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=q1jctY8nDTWT/qOVlN91VFv+24zW8MDr4Vu6kQS1Xyui5Xa2ruVIyaRn/LKm0pPxZ4+EegK5pRWV3/crV5CDFMbTuaCjw0LulB9moxpgF0wcgqC1cpPhfVA4LxoBiCnK53ZB/A4D2dijm7PVBukfitTwwh6uQ7owCoURJdGod2o= Received: by 10.65.214.11 with SMTP id r11mr480446qbq; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 09:39:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.197.4 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 09:39:31 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6f10fa9d0603150939v45ba9c98sbf274e8ebd156efa> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 09:39:31 -0800 From: "Dennis Moore" To: Babel-list Subject: [npc] The Cars reunite for Blondie tour MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by penguin.postmodern.com id k2FHdUu2026633 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/4809166.stm [snip] Renamed The New Cars, they will release an album of studio and concert tracks and will feature on Blondie's final tour, both of which take place in May. [snip] (Trippy to get this notice this morning after going off off-topic yesterday when I actually had The Cars specifically in mind too - particularly because the new name. Also poignant since it is announced as their final tour. From babel-list-owner Wed Mar 15 10:45:23 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2FIjNkT028584 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 10:45:23 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k2FIjMdI028583 for babel-list-obscured; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 10:45:22 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from ms-smtp-05-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.44]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2FIjKQ7028577 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 10:45:22 -0800 Received: from Bob2 (cpe-24-174-26-239.houston.res.rr.com [24.174.26.239]) by ms-smtp-05-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id k2FIjI1I017763 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 12:45:21 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <004901c64860$9c47cf90$ef1aae18> From: "rslovacek" To: "Babel-list" References: <6f10fa9d0603150939v45ba9c98sbf274e8ebd156efa> Subject: Re: [npc] The Cars reunite for Blondie tour Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 12:45:19 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Is it the New Blondie? The New Cars were on the Tonight Show last night, it was kewl. I saw them listed as appearing and didn't know if it had anything to do with the old group or not. Until Ric Ocasek was there front and center with a weird two-tone hairdo :) http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/4809166.stm [snip] Renamed The New Cars, they will release an album of studio and concert tracks and will feature on Blondie's final tour, both of which take place in May. [snip] (Trippy to get this notice this morning after going off off-topic yesterday when I actually had The Cars specifically in mind too - particularly because the new name. Also poignant since it is announced as their final tour. From babel-list-owner Wed Mar 15 10:57:49 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2FIvmrh028942 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 10:57:49 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k2FIvlU0028941 for babel-list-obscured; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 10:57:47 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from Front-end2.KRONOS.COM (front-end2.kronos.com [158.228.2.30]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2FIvjRf028934 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 10:57:45 -0800 Received: from exchg-f.KRONOS.COM ([158.228.0.199]) by Front-end2.KRONOS.COM with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 15 Mar 2006 13:57:40 -0500 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Subject: RE: [npc] The Cars reunite for Blondie tour Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 13:57:40 -0500 Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [npc] The Cars reunite for Blondie tour Thread-Index: AcZIYO7Nx8/d0MPTTZCYhziD7J8JBwAAFYRg From: "Gart, Mitchell" To: "rslovacek" , "Babel-list" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Mar 2006 18:57:40.0402 (UTC) FILETIME=[556FC120:01C64862] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by penguin.postmodern.com id k2FIvkRf028937 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ The article that is quoted says Ric Ocasek is not participating in The New Cars. Looking at TheNewCars website http://www.thenewcars.com/thenewcars/intro.htm it looks like the guy with the two-toned hair is someone named Kasim Sulton. His bio says in part: Kasim Sulton's Biography A highly coveted sideman, singer/songwriter Kasim Sulton is recognized and respected the world over for his work with other artists, including Todd Rundgren and Utopia, Meat Loaf, Joan Jett, Hall and Oates, Patti Smith, Patty Smyth, Mick Jagger, and Celine Dion to name just a few. That's from http://www.thenewcars.com/index.cfm/pk/content/pid/400064 I've never heard of him. Has anyone else heard of him working with Patti? If this were true, it would be interesting to finally have some kind of link between Patti and Patty besides their names. - Mitch > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-babel-list > [mailto:owner-babel-list] On Behalf Of rslovacek > Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 1:45 PM > To: Babel-list > Subject: Re: [npc] The Cars reunite for Blondie tour > > Is it the New Blondie? > > The New Cars were on the Tonight Show last night, it was > kewl. I saw them > listed as appearing and didn't know if it had anything to do > with the old > group or not. Until Ric Ocasek was there front and center > with a weird > two-tone hairdo :) > > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/4809166.stm > > [snip] Renamed The New Cars, they will release an album of > studio and > concert tracks and will feature on Blondie's final tour, > both of which > take place in May. [snip] > > (Trippy to get this notice this morning after going off off-topic > yesterday when I actually had The Cars specifically in mind too - > particularly because the new name. Also poignant since it > is announced > as their final tour. From babel-list-owner Wed Mar 15 11:05:24 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2FJ5N7J029151 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 11:05:24 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k2FJ5Ne3029150 for babel-list-obscured; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 11:05:23 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from web52013.mail.yahoo.com (web52013.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.48.96]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with SMTP id k2FJ5LoF029143 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 11:05:22 -0800 Received: (qmail 87673 invoked by uid 60001); 15 Mar 2006 19:05:19 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ia5zZv74NQR5MDhkHA+143keKOoS9tDkhsVx+KBzFMUdZ8G5J2bFJwwluwy5fmDtiGQz1i0R6JBmuv6O5NPj0ZS3keEVqxkreAT2oXrM7/wGe3AlFBUwgkNOhU9yZtO15ZlXiUd5lJajOLQfE5nw8W9CrNzW8C/6zDTKano1T/o= ; Message-ID: <20060315190519.87671.qmail> Received: from [208.0.234.17] by web52013.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 11:05:19 PST Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 11:05:19 -0800 (PST) From: fm Subject: RE: [npc] The Cars reunite for Blondie tour To: Babel-list In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Two-tone looks like Todd Rungdren to me. What a kook! --- "Gart, Mitchell" wrote: > The article that is quoted says Ric Ocasek is not > participating > in The New Cars. Looking at TheNewCars website > http://www.thenewcars.com/thenewcars/intro.htm > it looks like the guy with the two-toned hair is > someone named > Kasim Sulton. His bio says in part: > > Kasim Sulton's Biography > > A highly coveted sideman, singer/songwriter Kasim > Sulton is recognized > and respected the world over for his work with other > artists, including > Todd Rundgren and Utopia, Meat Loaf, Joan Jett, Hall > and Oates, > > Patti Smith, Patty Smyth, > > Mick Jagger, and Celine Dion to name just a few. > > That's from > http://www.thenewcars.com/index.cfm/pk/content/pid/400064 > > I've never heard of him. Has anyone else heard of > him working with > Patti? > > If this were true, it would be interesting to > finally have some kind > of link between Patti and Patty besides their names. > > > - Mitch > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-babel-list > > [mailto:owner-babel-list] On Behalf > Of rslovacek > > Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 1:45 PM > > To: Babel-list > > Subject: Re: [npc] The Cars reunite for Blondie > tour > > > > Is it the New Blondie? > > > > The New Cars were on the Tonight Show last > night, it was > > kewl. I saw them > > listed as appearing and didn't know if it had > anything to do > > with the old > > group or not. Until Ric Ocasek was there front > and center > > with a weird > > two-tone hairdo :) > > > > > > > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/4809166.stm > > > > [snip] Renamed The New Cars, they will release > an album of > > studio and > > concert tracks and will feature on Blondie's > final tour, > > both of which > > take place in May. [snip] > > > > (Trippy to get this notice this morning after > going off off-topic > > yesterday when I actually had The Cars > specifically in mind too - > > particularly because the new name. Also poignant > since it > > is announced > > as their final tour. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From babel-list-owner Wed Mar 15 11:35:04 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2FJZ2fG030137 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 11:35:04 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k2FJZ1oq030136 for babel-list-obscured; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 11:35:01 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2FJYv9m030124 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 11:35:00 -0800 Received: from Bob2 (cpe-24-174-26-239.houston.res.rr.com [24.174.26.239]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id k2FJYrCV015327 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 13:34:56 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <007c01c64867$8927dc00$ef1aae18> From: "rslovacek" To: "Babel-list" References: <20060315190519.87671.qmail> Subject: Re: [npc] The Cars reunite for Blondie tour Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 13:34:53 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ OOPS! Color me embarrassed! It LOOKED to ME like Okasek, only older and with added chins. I did think of Todd Rungdren too. Anyway, the band sounded good on at least that one song. ----- Original Message ----- From: fm To: Babel-list Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 1:05 PM Subject: RE: [npc] The Cars reunite for Blondie tour Two-tone looks like Todd Rungdren to me. What a kook! --- "Gart, Mitchell" wrote: > The article that is quoted says Ric Ocasek is not > participating > in The New Cars. Looking at TheNewCars website > http://www.thenewcars.com/thenewcars/intro.htm > it looks like the guy with the two-toned hair is > someone named > Kasim Sulton. His bio says in part: > > Kasim Sulton's Biography > > A highly coveted sideman, singer/songwriter Kasim > Sulton is recognized > and respected the world over for his work with other > artists, including > Todd Rundgren and Utopia, Meat Loaf, Joan Jett, Hall > and Oates, > > Patti Smith, Patty Smyth, > > Mick Jagger, and Celine Dion to name just a few. > > That's from > http://www.thenewcars.com/index.cfm/pk/content/pid/400064 > > I've never heard of him. Has anyone else heard of > him working with > Patti? > > If this were true, it would be interesting to > finally have some kind > of link between Patti and Patty besides their names. > > > - Mitch > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-babel-list > > [mailto:owner-babel-list] On Behalf > Of rslovacek > > Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 1:45 PM > > To: Babel-list > > Subject: Re: [npc] The Cars reunite for Blondie > tour > > > > Is it the New Blondie? > > > > The New Cars were on the Tonight Show last > night, it was > > kewl. I saw them > > listed as appearing and didn't know if it had > anything to do > > with the old > > group or not. Until Ric Ocasek was there front > and center > > with a weird > > two-tone hairdo :) > > > > > > > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/4809166.stm > > > > [snip] Renamed The New Cars, they will release > an album of > > studio and > > concert tracks and will feature on Blondie's > final tour, > > both of which > > take place in May. [snip] > > > > (Trippy to get this notice this morning after > going off off-topic > > yesterday when I actually had The Cars > specifically in mind too - > > particularly because the new name. Also poignant > since it > > is announced > > as their final tour. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From babel-list-owner Wed Mar 15 12:30:41 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2FKUeS4031902 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 12:30:41 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k2FKUeF1031899 for babel-list-obscured; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 12:30:40 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2FKUcu9031894 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 12:30:39 -0800 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 4so267659nzn for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 12:30:40 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=mO/5OwE3s9vLghEt8GHsWclWS8ayU5HHxSCW1NaQ6Vy1dSb7NxOQ0CjYTt/Ma33ong36aZb6gB1wX7eWiN2XQMdBL03KMPDDt3j/eA0qtA4n58AhRHcBWZb6FQjT5jawfWUoLALtURGeWDkL0Dbyq0XPne1fE9SVXWjY2UZ7Naw= Received: by 10.65.188.19 with SMTP id q19mr235080qbp; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 12:30:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.197.4 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 12:30:40 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6f10fa9d0603151230m720d7212od4b2d65378486c2b> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 12:30:40 -0800 From: "Dennis Moore" To: Babel-list , EternalCafe Subject: "She-Rock" & 'Patti listening party' in Bangkok? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by penguin.postmodern.com id k2FKUeu9031895 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Pretty good article (by someone also a bit bothered by the smyth thing) ; Bangkok Life ; Fashion ; Film & Art ; Music Scene http://www.bangkokrecorder.com/?p=redakt.artikel_detail&ID=26&ArtikelID=170 She-Rock By Karuna Gurung BangkokRecorder | 15.03.2006 This Friday at Pla Dib, BangkokRecorder celebrates lady rockers in our first underground party. Here, we pay homage to key female bands in rock history. We're not giong to give you a comprehensive list of the countless women in contemporary music, but just offering a little taste of CHICKS who ROCK. [snip] While drawing from '60s garage rock, the rise of angry, anarchical punk music also has a lot to owe to one rocking chick, Patti Smith (not to be confused with Scandal frontlady Patty Smyth). Smith was known as "punk rock's poet laureate," bringing a feminist and cerebral streak to this fresh new genre. Her album Horses (1975) has been acclaimed as one of the finest rock releases of all time and proved influential to punk rock bands in the mid-'70s. [snip] From babel-list-owner Wed Mar 15 19:22:51 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2G3MpAR015896 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 19:22:51 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k2G3Mp0L015894 for babel-list-obscured; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 19:22:51 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from imo-d01.mx.aol.com (imo-d01.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.33]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2G3MomI015877 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 19:22:50 -0800 Received: from tomhosier by imo-d01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.3.) id r.c7.1375b24a (16238); Wed, 15 Mar 2006 22:22:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from netscape.net (mow-m08.webmail.aol.com [64.12.184.136]) by air-in03.mx.aol.com (vx) with ESMTP id MAILININ32-3f6e4418da00279; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 22:22:40 -0500 Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 22:22:40 -0500 From: tomhosier (Tom Hosier) To: MGart ("Gart, Mitchell"), babel-list ("Babel-list") Subject: RE: [npc] The Cars reunite for Blondie tour MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <3B161A6E.33577EC0.035802A6> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 X-AOL-IP: 69.86.184.15 X-AOL-Language: english Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Flag: NO Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ "Gart, Mitchell" wrote:> >If this were true, it would be interesting to finally have some kind >of link between Patti and Patty besides their names. > We've been through this! Tatum O'Neal lost one boyfriend (Oliver Ray) to Patti Smith, and one husband (John McEnroe) to Patti Smythe. __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp From babel-list-owner Wed Mar 15 23:28:02 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2G7S2q0024576 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 23:28:02 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k2G7S26s024575 for babel-list-obscured; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 23:28:02 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com (imo-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.36]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2G7S0wC024570 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2006 23:28:01 -0800 Received: from Krankiekat by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.3.) id m.2d6.4c8d0ae (15898) for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 02:27:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from mblk-r20 (mblk-r20.mblk.aol.com [152.163.211.211]) by air-id09.mx.aol.com (vx) with ESMTP id MAILINID91-3e1a4419137a3bd; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 02:27:54 -0500 Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 02:27:54 -0500 Message-Id: <8C816E2463CCD49-208-A9F3> From: krankiekat References: <200603151000.k2FA00TE013174> Received: from 163.192.21.45 by mblk-r20.sysops.aol.com (152.163.211.211) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 16 Mar 2006 02:27:54 -0500 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-MB-Message-Type: User In-Reply-To: <200603151000.k2FA00TE013174> X-Mailer: AOL WebMail 15106 Subject: Patti Reference in Sunday NY Times Magazine Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 To: babel-list X-AOL-IP: 152.163.211.211 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Did anyone see the Patti reference in the Sunday NY Times magazine article " Record Looses - Will Digital Kill The Cover-Art-Star? pg 98. Frank From babel-list-owner Thu Mar 16 01:01:18 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2G91I0s027072 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 01:01:18 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k2G91I6I027071 for babel-list-obscured; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 01:01:18 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from smtp16.wanadoo.fr (smtp16.wanadoo.fr [193.252.23.89]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2G91FJK027065 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 01:01:16 -0800 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1602.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 9DBC37000088 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 10:01:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from wwinf1602 (wwinf1602 [172.22.147.29]) by mwinf1602.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 9A6357000084 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 10:01:14 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20060316090114632.9A6357000084 Message-ID: <61554.1142499674624.JavaMail.www> From: Pierre VIVIANI Reply-To: vivianipierre To: Babel-list Subject: Futuro Presente Festival Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Originating-IP: [80.11.147.117] X-Wum-Nature: EMAIL-NATURE X-WUM-FROM: |~| X-WUM-TO: |~| X-WUM-REPLYTO: |~| Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 10:01:14 +0100 (CET) X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ I've just been informed that Patti will be on 4/4/06 in Rovereto (Italy, near Verona, Trento) during the Futuro-Presente Festival dedicated to Philip Glass this year (last year it was Merce Cunningham). It lasts near a week with music, cinema, exhibitions, dance, theatre...She will perform for a unique concert called "Footnote to Howl" with Philip Glass on piano as a tribute to Allen Ginsberg's work. Also an exhibition of Patti Smith's photographic work. For more informations : http://festivalfuturopresente.it http://italia.allaboutjazz.com From babel-list-owner Thu Mar 16 03:25:19 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2GBOFv5031444 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 03:24:15 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k2GBIgrr031256 for babel-list-obscured; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 03:18:42 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from imo-m28.mx.aol.com (imo-m28.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.9]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2GBDDRB031139 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 03:13:13 -0800 Received: from Lloyd5009 by imo-m28.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.3.) id m.2d7.46debf5 (39331) for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 06:13:25 -0500 (EST) From: Lloyd5009 Message-ID: <2d7.46debf5.314aa255> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 06:13:25 EST Subject: Re: Patti Reference in Sunday NY Times Magazine: missed it, can you tell us? To: Babel-list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5021 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ thanks From babel-list-owner Thu Mar 16 06:48:43 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2GEmgLL006369 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 06:48:43 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k2GEmgvd006368 for babel-list-obscured; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 06:48:42 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from imo-m18.mx.aol.com (imo-m18.mx.aol.com [64.12.138.208]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k2GEmeg1006362 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 06:48:41 -0800 Received: from Krankiekat by imo-m18.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.3.) id m.80.3802efde (25711) for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 09:48:32 -0500 (EST) From: Krankiekat Message-ID: <80.3802efde.314ad4c0> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 09:48:32 EST Subject: Patti reference in NY Sunday Times Magazine To: babel-list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5044 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Did anyone see the Patti reference in the Sun