From babel-list-owner Mon May 1 08:03:11 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k41F3ARP023881 for ; Mon, 1 May 2006 08:03:10 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k41F3AuN023880 for babel-list-obscured; Mon, 1 May 2006 08:03:10 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.205]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k41F38bM023873 for ; Mon, 1 May 2006 08:03:09 -0700 Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id i28so2411616nzi for ; Mon, 01 May 2006 08:03:10 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=VmwH+zGMggxQBx2jIt/u8fEj/RVzROTAnoNNjeyPn9Fuq/s0I5WxoEN3xqMGZKi+pS/n2QSS5gfIDDc39/YqMbmQRgKeTMqQK3ki/+sCyy6astYZZQfwCW+xEVHHOdltRFxct48NljpSrqgoaCNByZUc+MjD50CDIOtyZq9D++E= Received: by 10.65.38.20 with SMTP id q20mr1857324qbj; Mon, 01 May 2006 08:03:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.197.3 with HTTP; Mon, 1 May 2006 08:03:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6f10fa9d0605010803i58abee0ai5d728e1c86f83663> Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 08:03:09 -0700 From: "Dennis Moore" To: Babel-list Subject: Re: 2006 South Jersey Arts & Entertainment Hall of Fame In-Reply-To: <6f10fa9d0604230929i6e7d4ffci612f58cb11e8bc59> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed References: <6f10fa9d0604230929i6e7d4ffci612f58cb11e8bc59> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by penguin.postmodern.com id k41F39bM023875 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ No matter how you might try, New Jersey is a good state to hail from Home News Tribune Online 05/1/06 Rick Harrison http://www.thnt.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060501/COLUMNISTS/605010364/1081 Iblame Joe Piscopo. [snip] Of course, the list of those born or bred in New Jersey is anchored by the almighty Bruce Springsteen  Messiah of Rock 'N' Roll, without whom the Bee Gees might have taken over the world with a legion of trendy-dressing goons armed with hypnotic strobe lights and sporting feathered hair. Then there's Frank Sinatra, Jack Nicholson, Danny DeVito, James Gandolfini, Grover Cleveland, Allen Ginsberg, Lauryn Hill, Bon Jovi (OK, Strike one.) Whitney Houston, Bud Abbott, Lou Costello, Kevin Smith, Charles Addams, Edwin "Bud" Aldrin, Judy Blume, Jerry Lewis (That's strike two), Joe Pesci, Meryl Streep, Admiral William "Bull" Halsey Jr., Bruce Willis, Eddie Murphy, David Copperfield (foul tip), William Brennan, Count Basie, Norman Schwarzkopf, Kevin Spacey, Sarah Vaughan, Antonin Scalia (um), Samuel Alito Jr. (er), Jason Alexander, Ice-T, James Fenimore Cooper, Stephen Crane and Patti Smith. [snip] ....Patti listed last???? Perhaps for emphasis. hahaha A lousy article really, I've been looking for something with content about what happened - was P there, with who, did she say something, etc.? From babel-list-owner Tue May 2 03:19:02 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k42AJ1XS028404 for ; Tue, 2 May 2006 03:19:02 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k42AJ1OQ028403 for babel-list-obscured; Tue, 2 May 2006 03:19:01 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from imo-d23.mx.aol.com (imo-d23.mx.aol.com [205.188.139.137]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k42AIx5v028397 for ; Tue, 2 May 2006 03:19:00 -0700 Received: from Krankiekat by imo-d23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.5.) id m.383.2b32137 (15864) for ; Tue, 2 May 2006 06:18:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mblk-r43 (mblk-r43.mblk.aol.com [152.163.179.42]) by air-id06.mx.aol.com (vx) with ESMTP id MAILINID63-3df84457320c2cb; Tue, 02 May 2006 06:18:52 -0400 Date: Tue, 02 May 2006 06:19:02 -0400 Message-Id: <8C83BE8F7DDDD1D-A90-ACF2> From: krankiekat References: <200605020900.k42900K5026548> Received: from 163.192.21.41 by mblk-r43.sysops.aol.com (152.163.179.42) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 02 May 2006 06:19:02 -0400 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-MB-Message-Type: User In-Reply-To: <200605020900.k42900K5026548> X-Mailer: AOL WebMail 17385 Subject: Re: babel-digest V11 #99 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 To: babel-list X-AOL-IP: 152.163.179.42 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ You left out The SmiThereens who also hail from New Jersey. -----Original Message----- From: babel-digest To: babel-digest Sent: Tue, 2 May 2006 02:00:00 -0700 Subject: babel-digest V11 #99 babel-digest Tuesday, May 2 2006 Volume 11 : Number 099 In this issue: Re: 2006 South Jersey Arts & Entertainment Hall of Fame See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the babel-list or babel-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 08:03:09 -0700 From: "Dennis Moore" Subject: Re: 2006 South Jersey Arts & Entertainment Hall of Fame No matter how you might try, New Jersey is a good state to hail from Home News Tribune Online 05/1/06 Rick Harrison http://www.thnt.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060501/COLUMNISTS/605010364/1081 Iblame Joe Piscopo. [snip] Of course, the list of those born or bred in New Jersey is anchored by the almighty Bruce Springsteen  Messiah of Rock 'N' Roll, without whom the Bee Gees might have taken over the world with a legion of trendy-dressing goons armed with hypnotic strobe lights and sporting feathered hair. Then there's Frank Sinatra, Jack Nicholson, Danny DeVito, James Gandolfini, Grover Cleveland, Allen Ginsberg, Lauryn Hill, Bon Jovi (OK, Strike one.) Whitney Houston, Bud Abbott, Lou Costello, Kevin Smith, Charles Addams, Edwin "Bud" Aldrin, Judy Blume, Jerry Lewis (That's strike two), Joe Pesci, Meryl Streep, Admiral William "Bull" Halsey Jr., Bruce Willis, Eddie Murphy, David Copperfield (foul tip), William Brennan, Count Basie, Norman Schwarzkopf, Kevin Spacey, Sarah Vaughan, Antonin Scalia (um), Samuel Alito Jr. (er), Jason Alexander, Ice-T, James Fenimore Cooper, Stephen Crane and Patti Smith. [snip] ....Patti listed last???? Perhaps for emphasis. hahaha A lousy article really, I've been looking for something with content about what happened - was P there, with who, did she say something, etc.? ------------------------------ End of babel-digest V11 #99 *************************** To unsubscribe from babel-digest, send the following command in the body of a message to "majordomo": unsubscribe babel-digest To subscribe, send the command "subscribe babel-digest" instead. If you want to subscribe or unsubscribe something other than the account the mail is coming from, such as a local redistribution list, then append that address to the command; for example, to subscribe "local-babel": subscribe babel-digest local-babel A non-digest (direct mail) version of this list is also available; to subscribe to that instead, replace all instances of "babel-digest" in the commands above with "babel-list". Archives for the list (in monthly non-digest form) can be found at http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ . From babel-list-owner Wed May 3 12:13:27 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k43JDRGf031708 for ; Wed, 3 May 2006 12:13:27 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k43JDRPx031707 for babel-list-obscured; Wed, 3 May 2006 12:13:27 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from web52008.mail.yahoo.com (web52008.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.48.91]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with SMTP id k43JDPEq031698 for ; Wed, 3 May 2006 12:13:26 -0700 Received: (qmail 51693 invoked by uid 60001); 3 May 2006 19:13:22 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=EKY/o/dJjwlsM3Yc5ou/Auco5PgqwuAX0heUg/kwlEKLoALS6bUxYFfpgm5Rdb63iEAlZ3WEN4m+I2qOGAFMkcCcjzMOcw7TC7ThWVkiIa6DeZzCKFnYoYy6GiKqapSeE1LkYh4+345kXvA8k5qGEL8MGv7UxxydiWPoKmij/ic= ; Message-ID: <20060503191322.51691.qmail> Received: from [208.226.5.68] by web52008.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 03 May 2006 12:13:22 PDT Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 12:13:22 -0700 (PDT) From: fm Subject: Patti's Horses on WFMU performed A Cappella - LIVE To: babel MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ This sounds like a must. It's streaming live sometime in the next three hours (sorry, there's no start time listed). If you can't listen live 'FMU archives everything. http://www.wfmu.org/upcoming#5076 Robin Kahn sings Patti Smith's "Horses" Wednesday, May 3rd, 3pm - 6pm on Intelligent Design with Kenny G Kenny welcomes back Robin Kahn for her annual visit to WFMU. This year she will sing Patti Smith's "Horses" in its entirety. A capella, of course. Long time listeners who remember her unforgettable performances of "Jesus Christ Superstar" and Carole King's "Tapestry" will not want to miss this! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From babel-list-owner Wed May 3 17:02:23 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4402Mqq007956 for ; Wed, 3 May 2006 17:02:23 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k4402MgW007955 for babel-list-obscured; Wed, 3 May 2006 17:02:22 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net (rwcrmhc14.comcast.net [204.127.192.84]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4402Lji007950 for ; Wed, 3 May 2006 17:02:21 -0700 Received: from Gateway503GR (c-71-232-7-130.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[71.232.7.130]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with SMTP id <20060504000218m1400rpiqle>; Thu, 4 May 2006 00:02:18 +0000 Message-ID: <006a01c66f0e$019c8ce0$8207e847> From: "ggull" To: References: <20060429152751.75779.qmail> Subject: Re: Non PS Content: New Neil Young Songs Online Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 20:02:16 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ And now on the referenced site is the note: I have taken down the mp3s of the album, because the songs are currently available for digital download, from e.g. iTunes, Napster and SonyConnect. But it's still streaming at neilyoung.com :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "TOM MOHR" > This was posted on the Mekons list: > > >>You'll find mp3's at: > > http://joost.rusties.net/LWW/ << > > rslovacek wrote: Beginning 4-28, http://neilyoung.com will offer free streaming of his new > album, "Living With War" From babel-list-owner Tue May 9 15:31:08 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k49MV7uO021994 for ; Tue, 9 May 2006 15:31:08 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k49MV7sY021993 for babel-list-obscured; Tue, 9 May 2006 15:31:07 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from nessie.crosslink.net (smmsp [206.246.124.31]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k49MV5Zg021987 for ; Tue, 9 May 2006 15:31:06 -0700 Received: from DFL67R61.crosslink.net (dial078.northumberland.248.crosslink.net [209.147.70.97]) by nessie.crosslink.net (8.12.3/) with ESMTP id k49MV1q4008442 for ; Tue, 9 May 2006 18:31:02 -0400 X-Really-To: Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.0.20060509182809.019b3110> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Tue, 09 May 2006 18:31:01 -0400 To: babel-list From: Phil Grabar Subject: New Tom Verlaine offerings Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-6C6D1E36 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Tom Verlaine has two new cd's out - Songs and Other Things, and an all instrumental Around. I got them both from DeepDiscountCD.com for $24.74, which includes the free shipping. Phil -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5/333 - Release Date: 5/5/2006 From babel-list-owner Wed May 10 02:21:34 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4A9LY3S013962 for ; Wed, 10 May 2006 02:21:34 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k4A9LYbS013961 for babel-list-obscured; Wed, 10 May 2006 02:21:34 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.238]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4A9LWdD013955 for ; Wed, 10 May 2006 02:21:33 -0700 Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i22so1464567wra for ; Wed, 10 May 2006 02:21:35 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=I+nzTkcVl3cumYR51uIR23JjGNm1n4XjIvMKh7uc+ISMkFGo9fBsxxuuIU9KGy4FLToMQ9YXfMMA7uyAEMFC141aBwOcRy88tpa6+OcZgUWyDLRd5g8RyUm7spki2WzVkNVVBxJwnAd+hsEjS1Rfjv09v2bhnV1YZFQLlfARjas= Received: by 10.65.126.3 with SMTP id d3mr221396qbn; Wed, 10 May 2006 02:21:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.243.19 with HTTP; Wed, 10 May 2006 02:21:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 10:21:35 +0100 From: "Andrew F Wilson" To: babel-list Subject: Re: New Tom Verlaine offerings In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.0.20060509182809.019b3110> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed References: <7.0.1.0.0.20060509182809.019b3110> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by penguin.postmodern.com id k4A9LXdD013956 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Tom Verlaine in playing in Washington, Philadelphia and New York next week, then there is a European tour in July. See: http://www.marquee.demon.co.uk/news.htm Kind regards Andrew On 5/9/06, Phil Grabar wrote: > Tom Verlaine has two new cd's out - Songs and Other Things, and an > all instrumental Around. From babel-list-owner Fri May 12 07:41:49 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4CEfmeQ022837 for ; Fri, 12 May 2006 07:41:49 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k4CEflLF022836 for babel-list-obscured; Fri, 12 May 2006 07:41:47 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from Front-end1.KRONOS.COM (front-end1.kronos.com [158.228.2.31]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4CEfg4r022824 for ; Fri, 12 May 2006 07:41:45 -0700 Received: from exchg-f.KRONOS.COM ([158.228.0.199]) by Front-end1.KRONOS.COM with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 12 May 2006 10:41:37 -0400 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: RE: PS on Ubu Web Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 10:41:36 -0400 Message-ID: Thread-Topic: PS on Ubu Web Thread-Index: AcZsgRpnDAKImzEwT+id9Ons3snysQJUP6dw From: "Gart, Mitchell" To: , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 May 2006 14:41:37.0411 (UTC) FILETIME=[2C56DD30:01C675D2] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by penguin.postmodern.com id k4CEfk4r022832 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ I'm just listening to these now and they're very cool. Does anybody know an easy way to capture them from the web to my hard drive? - Mitch > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-babel-list > [mailto:owner-babel-list] On Behalf Of > tomhosier > Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 2:07 PM > To: babel-list > Subject: PS on Ubu Web > > Thanks to Mikeyono on the Friends of Yoko list for turning me > on to the Ubu Web site. Just found yhis: > > Early PS readings on Ubu Web: > > http://www.ubu.com/sound/smith.html > > Patti Smith | UbuWeb > > 1. Poem for Jim Morrison & Bumblebee (11:45) > from The Nova Convention (Giorno Poetry Systems, 1978) > > 2. The Histories of the Universe (7:46) > Recorded at St. Marks Church, NYC, Jan 1, 1975 > from Big Ego (Giorno Poetry Systems, 1978) > > 3. Parade (6:07) > from Sugar, Alcohol, Meat (Giorno Poetry Systems) > > > __________________________________________________________________ > Switch to Netscape Internet Service. > As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at > http://isp.netscape.com/register > > Netscape. Just the Net You Need. > > New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer > Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. > Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp From babel-list-owner Fri May 12 08:05:38 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4CF5brX023698 for ; Fri, 12 May 2006 08:05:38 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k4CF5bBx023697 for babel-list-obscured; Fri, 12 May 2006 08:05:37 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from ylpvm15.prodigy.net (ylpvm15-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.57.46]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4CF5Yrr023692 for ; Fri, 12 May 2006 08:05:35 -0700 Received: from pimout3-ext.prodigy.net (pimout3-int.prodigy.net [207.115.4.218]) by ylpvm15.prodigy.net (8.12.10 outbound/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k4CF5WgB004741 for ; Fri, 12 May 2006 11:05:36 -0400 X-ORBL: [67.67.233.182] Received: from emachine.mail.carrollsweb.com (adsl-67-67-233-182.dsl.wchtks.swbell.net [67.67.233.182]) by pimout3-ext.prodigy.net (8.13.6 out.dk/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k4CF5QD0042080; Fri, 12 May 2006 11:05:28 -0400 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20060512100334.00bcffb8> X-Sender: rockndog X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 10:05:24 -0500 To: "Gart, Mitchell" , , From: Mike McEchron Subject: RE: PS on Ubu Web In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Yeah... most browsers will allow you to just right click and choose Save Target As in the context menu and save it somewhere you will remember on your hard drive. m >I'm just listening to these now and they're very cool. >Does anybody know an easy way to capture them from the web >to my hard drive? > >- Mitch > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-babel-list > > [mailto:owner-babel-list] On Behalf Of > > tomhosier > > Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 2:07 PM > > To: babel-list > > Subject: PS on Ubu Web > > > > Thanks to Mikeyono on the Friends of Yoko list for turning me > > on to the Ubu Web site. Just found yhis: > > > > Early PS readings on Ubu Web: > > > > http://www.ubu.com/sound/smith.html > > > > Patti Smith | UbuWeb > > > > 1. Poem for Jim Morrison & Bumblebee (11:45) > > from The Nova Convention (Giorno Poetry Systems, 1978) > > > > 2. The Histories of the Universe (7:46) > > Recorded at St. Marks Church, NYC, Jan 1, 1975 > > from Big Ego (Giorno Poetry Systems, 1978) > > > > 3. Parade (6:07) > > from Sugar, Alcohol, Meat (Giorno Poetry Systems) > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > Switch to Netscape Internet Service. > > As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at > > http://isp.netscape.com/register > > > > Netscape. Just the Net You Need. > > > > New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer > > Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. > > Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp From babel-list-owner Fri May 12 08:06:55 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4CF6tMo023739 for ; Fri, 12 May 2006 08:06:55 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k4CF6tWq023738 for babel-list-obscured; Fri, 12 May 2006 08:06:55 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from Front-end1.KRONOS.COM (front-end1.kronos.com [158.228.2.31]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4CF6qSv023731 for ; Fri, 12 May 2006 08:06:54 -0700 Received: from exchg-f.KRONOS.COM ([158.228.0.199]) by Front-end1.KRONOS.COM with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 12 May 2006 11:06:48 -0400 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: RE: PS on Ubu Web Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 11:06:47 -0400 Message-ID: Thread-Topic: PS on Ubu Web Thread-Index: AcZ11YdN0YIMT38yT3uVDFev2uGUCgAABqow From: "Gart, Mitchell" To: "Mike McEchron" , , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 May 2006 15:06:48.0385 (UTC) FILETIME=[B0F33310:01C675D5] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by penguin.postmodern.com id k4CF6sSv023734 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Yep, I was using Firefox and it wasn't there, but when I tried in IE it worked fine. Thanks, - Mitch > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike McEchron [mailto:rockndog] > Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 11:05 AM > To: Gart, Mitchell; tomhosier; babel-list > Subject: RE: PS on Ubu Web > > Yeah... most browsers will allow you to just right click and > choose Save > Target As in the context menu and save it somewhere you will > remember on > your hard drive. > > m > > > >I'm just listening to these now and they're very cool. > >Does anybody know an easy way to capture them from the web > >to my hard drive? > > > >- Mitch > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-babel-list > > > [mailto:owner-babel-list] On Behalf Of > > > tomhosier > > > Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 2:07 PM > > > To: babel-list > > > Subject: PS on Ubu Web > > > > > > Thanks to Mikeyono on the Friends of Yoko list for turning me > > > on to the Ubu Web site. Just found yhis: > > > > > > Early PS readings on Ubu Web: > > > > > > http://www.ubu.com/sound/smith.html > > > > > > Patti Smith | UbuWeb > > > > > > 1. Poem for Jim Morrison & Bumblebee (11:45) > > > from The Nova Convention (Giorno Poetry Systems, 1978) > > > > > > 2. The Histories of the Universe (7:46) > > > Recorded at St. Marks Church, NYC, Jan 1, 1975 > > > from Big Ego (Giorno Poetry Systems, 1978) > > > > > > 3. Parade (6:07) > > > from Sugar, Alcohol, Meat (Giorno Poetry Systems) > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > > Switch to Netscape Internet Service. > > > As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at > > > http://isp.netscape.com/register > > > > > > Netscape. Just the Net You Need. > > > > > > New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer > > > Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. > > > Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp From babel-list-owner Fri May 12 14:54:44 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4CLsh5m009226 for ; Fri, 12 May 2006 14:54:44 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k4CLshJY009225 for babel-list-obscured; Fri, 12 May 2006 14:54:43 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from imo-m24.mx.aol.com (imo-m24.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.5]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4CLsgPx009217 for ; Fri, 12 May 2006 14:54:42 -0700 Received: from EXILEDF by imo-m24.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.5.) id m.469.1bc5e2 (40522) for ; Fri, 12 May 2006 17:54:26 -0400 (EDT) From: EXILEDF Message-ID: <469.1bc5e2.31965e12> Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 17:54:26 EDT Subject: patti on new ronnie spector To: babel-list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5123 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ new ronnie spector cd out now one song with patti From babel-list-owner Mon May 15 09:22:20 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4FGMG3m022786 for ; Mon, 15 May 2006 09:22:19 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k4FGMFDI022785 for babel-list-obscured; Mon, 15 May 2006 09:22:15 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from mail3.panix.com (mail3.panix.com [166.84.1.74]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4FGMAQd022770 for ; Mon, 15 May 2006 09:22:14 -0700 Received: from panix2.panix.com (panix2.panix.com [166.84.1.2]) by mail3.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A24513BCD7; Mon, 15 May 2006 12:20:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from spamtony) by panix2.panix.com (8.11.6p3/8.8.8/PanixN1.1) id k4FGKxo12993; Mon, 15 May 2006 12:20:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200605151620.k4FGKxo12993> Subject: Re: New Tom Verlaine offerings To: pgrabar (Phil Grabar) Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 12:20:59 -0400 (EDT) From: "weapons of mass destruction-related program activities" Cc: babel-list In-Reply-To: Reply-To: spamtony (Anthony J. Rzepela) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5+IMAP PL8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Phil Grabar (pgrabar) wrote: > > Tom Verlaine has two new cd's out - Songs and Other Things, and an > all instrumental Around. > > I got them both from DeepDiscountCD.com for $24.74, which includes > the free shipping. These albums are also available on eMusic, a paid-download service. On the plan I personally signed up with (they have several tiers), the Verlaine costs me 20 cents per track, and the files are VBR MP3s which come in at around 192 kbps. If you hunt around, you can find various offers of 50 or even 100 free emusic.com downloads on a trial basis. (And thanks to the other poster for the heads-up. Tom is here in Philly tomorrow night. I had no idea!) From babel-list-owner Mon May 15 13:04:10 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4FK4AT1001529 for ; Mon, 15 May 2006 13:04:10 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k4FK49N8001527 for babel-list-obscured; Mon, 15 May 2006 13:04:09 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from imo-d21.mx.aol.com (imo-d21.mx.aol.com [205.188.144.207]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4FK480T001518 for ; Mon, 15 May 2006 13:04:08 -0700 Received: from Poemsl1 by imo-d21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.5.) id 8.445.86ea5d (14501); Mon, 15 May 2006 16:03:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Poemsl1 Message-ID: <445.86ea5d.319a38ad> Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 16:03:57 EDT Subject: Re: New Tom Verlaine offerings To: spamtony, babel-list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5300 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ You can listen to Tom's new stuff here: _http://www.thrilljockey.com/catalog/index.html?id=100371_ (http://www.thrilljockey.com/catalog/index.html?id=100371) _http://www.thrilljockey.com/catalog/index.html?id=100385_ (http://www.thrilljockey.com/catalog/index.html?id=100385) xxo- Seena From babel-list-owner Tue May 16 12:05:20 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4GJ5KXp028224 for ; Tue, 16 May 2006 12:05:20 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k4GJ5KQi028223 for babel-list-obscured; Tue, 16 May 2006 12:05:20 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from Front-end1.KRONOS.COM (front-end1.kronos.com [158.228.2.31]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4GJ5HHB028208 for ; Tue, 16 May 2006 12:05:18 -0700 Received: from exchg-f.KRONOS.COM ([158.228.0.199]) by Front-end1.KRONOS.COM with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 16 May 2006 15:05:12 -0400 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: RE: New Tom Verlaine offerings Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 15:05:11 -0400 Message-ID: Thread-Topic: New Tom Verlaine offerings Thread-Index: AcZ4XNZH3W1a9d35Re6GsRWrmM23PwAvkqRA From: "Gart, Mitchell" To: , , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 May 2006 19:05:12.0864 (UTC) FILETIME=[A8BC7A00:01C6791B] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by penguin.postmodern.com id k4GJ5IHB028218 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ I really enjoyed listening to these. Thanks for posting. On the first disc Tom sings, and the second one is just instrumental. On the one where he sings, his singing is better than usual. But the one I'm going to go out and get is the instrumental disc. It seems quiet and not really rock, but very enjoyable. Does anybody know where to get TV's tour schedule? - Mitch > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-babel-list > [mailto:owner-babel-list] On Behalf Of Poemsl1 > Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 4:04 PM > To: spamtony; babel-list > Subject: Re: New Tom Verlaine offerings > > You can listen to Tom's new stuff here: > > _http://www.thrilljockey.com/catalog/index.html?id=100371_ > (http://www.thrilljockey.com/catalog/index.html?id=100371) > > _http://www.thrilljockey.com/catalog/index.html?id=100385_ > (http://www.thrilljockey.com/catalog/index.html?id=100385) > > xxo- Seena From babel-list-owner Tue May 16 12:49:54 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4GJnrDN029851 for ; Tue, 16 May 2006 12:49:53 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k4GJnrrT029850 for babel-list-obscured; Tue, 16 May 2006 12:49:53 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from hotmail.com (bay108-f26.bay108.hotmail.com [65.54.162.36]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4GJnpwj029842 for ; Tue, 16 May 2006 12:49:52 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 16 May 2006 12:49:47 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 65.54.162.200 by by108fd.bay108.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 16 May 2006 19:49:44 GMT X-Originating-IP: [154.20.229.10] X-Originating-Email: [mike_alstublief] X-Sender: mike_alstublief In-Reply-To: <200605160900.k4G901J6005706> From: "Mike Spindloe" To: babel-list Subject: MP3s etc Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 12:49:44 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 May 2006 19:49:47.0405 (UTC) FILETIME=[E2E30BD0:01C67921] Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ 20 cents per track seems about right for MP3s, since they contain +/- 10% of the information contained on a CD, which in turn still has artificial limits that make it inferior to analogue. That's two steps backward now from the music industry, all in the name of convenience. Has anyone on this list ever compared an MP3 file to a CD (wav file) on a decent stereo? The difference is pretty obvious. While there's something to be said for producing fewer artifacts (our culture is drunk on producing STUFF - we're not "successful" unless we produce more every year, right?), I also care about the quality of the sound I'm buying (as well as the quality of the music - an even more subjective area!). Today is census day in Canada. Our government contracted our census out to an American company, Lockheed Martin, which if I understand correctly is mostly engaged in the production of weapons of mass destruction. That's probably why I'm so cranky. Mike >These albums are also available on eMusic, a paid-download >service. On the plan I personally signed up with (they have several >tiers), the Verlaine costs me 20 cents per track, and the files >are VBR MP3s which come in at around 192 kbps. > >If you hunt around, you can find various offers of 50 or even >100 free emusic.com downloads on a trial basis. > >(And thanks to the other poster for the heads-up. Tom is >here in Philly tomorrow night. I had no idea!) From babel-list-owner Tue May 16 13:17:37 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4GKHbQe030731 for ; Tue, 16 May 2006 13:17:37 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k4GKHbtA030730 for babel-list-obscured; Tue, 16 May 2006 13:17:37 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from mxsf42.cluster1.charter.net (mxsf42.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.174]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4GKHag9030722 for ; Tue, 16 May 2006 13:17:36 -0700 Received: from mxip21a.cluster1.charter.net (mxip21a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.151]) by mxsf42.cluster1.charter.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k4GKHTXm026714 for ; Tue, 16 May 2006 16:17:31 -0400 Received: from 24-176-98-114.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com (HELO [24.176.98.114]) ([24.176.98.114]) by mxip21a.cluster1.charter.net with ESMTP; 16 May 2006 16:17:30 -0400 In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <924871655d5a9e46b8ad66f760da839d> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: babel-list From: Steve Parrott Subject: Re: MP3s etc Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 15:17:27 -0500 To: "Mike Spindloe" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Quality is fast becoming a thing of the past. No one is really surprised at slipshod "stuff" any longer, no matter what the product / service. No one expects anything made today to last for any considerable amount of time. Faster and cheaper is what the majority of the public wants, quality really does not enter the picture to a great extent. Steve On May 16, 2006, at 2:49 PM, Mike Spindloe wrote: > 20 cents per track seems about right for MP3s, since they contain +/- > 10% of the information contained on a CD, which in turn still has > artificial limits that make it inferior to analogue. That's two steps > backward now from the music industry, all in the name of convenience. > Has anyone on this list ever compared an MP3 file to a CD (wav file) > on a decent stereo? The difference is pretty obvious. While there's > something to be said for producing fewer artifacts (our culture is > drunk on producing STUFF - we're not "successful" unless we produce > more every year, right?), I also care about the quality of the sound > I'm buying (as well as the quality of the music - an even more > subjective area!). > > Today is census day in Canada. Our government contracted our census > out to an American company, Lockheed Martin, which if I understand > correctly is mostly engaged in the production of weapons of mass > destruction. That's probably why I'm so cranky. > > Mike > > > > > >> These albums are also available on eMusic, a paid-download >> service. On the plan I personally signed up with (they have several >> tiers), the Verlaine costs me 20 cents per track, and the files >> are VBR MP3s which come in at around 192 kbps. >> >> If you hunt around, you can find various offers of 50 or even >> 100 free emusic.com downloads on a trial basis. >> >> (And thanks to the other poster for the heads-up. Tom is >> here in Philly tomorrow night. I had no idea!) From babel-list-owner Tue May 16 14:43:49 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4GLhm1A000991 for ; Tue, 16 May 2006 14:43:49 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k4GLhlRF000990 for babel-list-obscured; Tue, 16 May 2006 14:43:47 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from mail3.panix.com (mail3.panix.com [166.84.1.74]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4GLhkT2000984 for ; Tue, 16 May 2006 14:43:47 -0700 Received: from panix1.panix.com (panix1.panix.com [166.84.1.1]) by mail3.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5139F13A9D5; Tue, 16 May 2006 17:43:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from spamtony) by panix1.panix.com (8.11.6p3/8.8.8/PanixN1.1) id k4GLhfK29500; Tue, 16 May 2006 17:43:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200605162143.k4GLhfK29500> Subject: Re: MP3s etc To: mike_alstublief (Mike Spindloe) Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 17:43:41 -0400 (EDT) From: "weapons of mass destruction-related program activities" Cc: babel-list In-Reply-To: Reply-To: spamtony (Anthony J. Rzepela) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5+IMAP PL8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Mike Spindloe (mike_alstublief) wrote: > > 20 cents per track seems about right for MP3s, since they > contain +/- 10% of the information contained on a CD, which > in turn still has artificial limits that make it inferior > to analogue. That's two steps backward now from the > music industry, all in the name of convenience. Well, until Tom Verlaine invites me over to listen to his master reel-to-reels, a CD (at least) will have to do. And it's about more than convenience, for me at least. With eMusic, it's about supporting a model of DRM-free, untethered downloads, which I get to keep forever and ever (unless my backups fail, which they inevitably will). And maybe I don't want to spend $12.99 to find out I really don't like "Around" all that much. And I agree that Mp3s are somewhat less than great. For that reason, the 20-cent pricepoint is one that is actually suitable for me. And no one has to give their work away for free. And I get to hear a preview of the album. If I really really like it, I will, as I have in the past, go on to buy the full CD. If you don't like the model, don't participate. And I don't mean that flippantly. There's nothing "inevitable" about higher and higher prices for crappier and crappier "stuff", and it's always a good feeling to be able to walk away from encouraging that rat race. But this particular arrangement works for me right here and now. YMMV. From babel-list-owner Tue May 16 22:08:22 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4H58M56015141 for ; Tue, 16 May 2006 22:08:22 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k4H58MTB015139 for babel-list-obscured; Tue, 16 May 2006 22:08:22 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from mail3.panix.com (mail3.panix.com [166.84.1.74]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4H58KL6015133 for ; Tue, 16 May 2006 22:08:21 -0700 Received: from panix2.panix.com (panix2.panix.com [166.84.1.2]) by mail3.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F7F813AB32; Wed, 17 May 2006 01:08:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from spamtony) by panix2.panix.com (8.11.6p3/8.8.8/PanixN1.1) id k4H585C06663; Wed, 17 May 2006 01:08:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200605170508.k4H585C06663> Subject: Re: New Tom Verlaine offerings To: MGart (Gart, Mitchell) Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 01:08:05 -0400 (EDT) From: "weapons of mass destruction-related program activities" Cc: Poemsl1, spamtony, babel-list In-Reply-To: Reply-To: spamtony (Anthony J. Rzepela) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5+IMAP PL8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Gart, Mitchell (MGart) wrote: > > On the first disc Tom sings, and the second one is just instrumental. ObJohnLennon: One is in black and white, and one is colored. > Does anybody know where to get TV's tour schedule? I find pollstar.com to be reliable. It reveals that mid-June will find him in Pittsburgh and Chicago. Went to see him tonight. FAAAAB-ulous!!!! (And after enduring his pretensions night after night opening for Patti at the Bowery Ballroom in '98, I wasn't expecting much.) He's playing with three musicians behind him, including one "Fred Smith" on bass (no, I don't know if it's THE Fred Smith of the original Television, but FYI....) I recognized three things all night (okay, well, four): Tom Verlaine (guitar and vocals). "Fred Smith" (again, I don't know if it was THE Fred Smith, but he was almost as fat and bald as me). "Kingdom Come" (was this a Television song? I only recognized it because of David Bowie.) Tom Verlaine's friggin' genius. Oh, man. See. This. Show. Thanks to the folks who posted here the heads-up about Tom being on the road. I owe you. From babel-list-owner Tue May 16 22:52:47 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4H5qjOg016435 for ; Tue, 16 May 2006 22:52:47 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k4H5qjvc016434 for babel-list-obscured; Tue, 16 May 2006 22:52:45 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from mail3.panix.com (mail3.panix.com [166.84.1.74]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4H5qhEA016427 for ; Tue, 16 May 2006 22:52:44 -0700 Received: from panix3.panix.com (panix3.panix.com [166.84.1.3]) by mail3.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44D5813A780 for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 01:52:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from spamtony) by panix3.panix.com (8.11.6p3/8.8.8/PanixN1.1) id k4H5qiE27338 for babel-list; Wed, 17 May 2006 01:52:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200605170552.k4H5qiE27338> Subject: Re: MP3s etc Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 01:52:44 -0400 (EDT) From: "weapons of mass destruction-related program activities" Cc: babel-list In-Reply-To: Reply-To: spamtony (Anthony J. Rzepela) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5+IMAP PL8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ "50 free MP3s" offer from eMusic: http://www.dpbolvw.net/click-1988350-10409521 From babel-list-owner Wed May 17 10:28:46 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4HHSkwH014282 for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 10:28:46 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k4HHSkQ7014281 for babel-list-obscured; Wed, 17 May 2006 10:28:46 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from imo-m21.mx.aol.com (imo-m21.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.2]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4HHSiNA014271 for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 10:28:45 -0700 Received: from Aphinar by imo-m21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.5.) id m.454.994e86 (65100) for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 13:28:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Aphinar Message-ID: <454.994e86.319cc874> Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 14:41:56 EDT Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Tom=20Verlaine=20on=20"Soundcheck",=202=E2=80=933=20pm?= =?UTF-8?Q?=20EDT?= To: babel-list (Babel-list) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5300 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Today's "Soundcheck" (John Schaefer) on WNYC-FM (93.9 MHz) will include "A conversation with Tom Verlaine, former frontman of the band Television". This should be available live at _http://www.wnyc.org/stream/fm.asx_ (http://www.wnyc.org/stream/fm.asx) and _http://www.wnyc.org/stream/fm.pls_ (http://www.wnyc.org/stream/fm.pls) and no doubt it will soon be stored at _http://www.wnyc.org/shows/soundcheck/episodes/2006/05_ (http://www.wnyc.org/shows/soundcheck/episodes/2006/05) . Jay Dillon _Jay Dillon Rare Books + Manuscripts, LLC_ (http://www.jaydillon.com/) From babel-list-owner Wed May 17 16:19:16 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4HNJG9B026728 for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 16:19:16 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k4HNJGPD026727 for babel-list-obscured; Wed, 17 May 2006 16:19:16 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [63.240.77.83]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4HNJDDP026717 for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 16:19:15 -0700 Received: from Gateway503GR (c-71-232-7-130.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[71.232.7.130]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <2006051723190701300egoq6e>; Wed, 17 May 2006 23:19:07 +0000 Message-ID: <002601c67a08$4b751850$8207e847> From: "ggull" To: References: Subject: Re: MP3s etc Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 19:19:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ > 20 cents per track seems about right for MP3s, since they contain +/- 10% > of the information contained on a CD, which in turn still has artificial > limits that make it inferior to analogue. That's two steps backward now > from the music industry, all in the name of convenience. Has anyone on > this list ever compared an MP3 file to a CD (wav file) on a decent stereo? > The difference is pretty obvious. I'm glad to see I'm not the only relict who feels that a buck (USD) to download a song is really pushing the price point. Just can't see myself doing it. Now at $0.20 a pop, I might devote a sawback every now and then to getting some dls, hot and trendy or classic cuts, because I know I want 'em or just to check out. A buck just to find out the latest buzz is crap is over my comfort level. . My objection (other than cheapness;-) isn't so much the relative # of bits, or quality, relative to a CD, it's the almost cost free distribution model. In return for cutting out a lot of middlemen, not producing a mountain of physical CDs, packaging, etc, not wasting gas transporting the product all over the place, etc, it seems the consumer should get a bit of a break. A question: what fidelity (kbps) of mp3's do find obviously different/inferior to a standard wave file? I'm not even sure what's standard for a commercial download, but over at archive.org they're available in hi and lo fidelity. From babel-list-owner Wed May 17 19:23:41 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4I2NfAk032594 for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 19:23:41 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k4I2NfT3032593 for babel-list-obscured; Wed, 17 May 2006 19:23:41 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from web37306.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web37306.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.87.44]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with SMTP id k4I2Ndjg032587 for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 19:23:40 -0700 Received: (qmail 63906 invoked by uid 60001); 18 May 2006 02:23:33 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Nvb5OA9DoMPUj2TnousVCNjUr7MO4uxxT8VNPYoSwJok21uVq+k+SwOKZpwJCxo27PfrIby3XV36oNNFlFsaMKzyHucBsyNfLJCHlD7eESll0CBzgQ2d5AhIbI/gHtyTR4atFD7NwIczOxY5zlEcuFQVH74nVKWOPs022IERHRo= ; Message-ID: <20060518022333.63904.qmail> Received: from [71.198.247.74] by web37306.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 17 May 2006 19:23:33 PDT Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 19:23:33 -0700 (PDT) From: skywalker Subject: "A Heavy Rock & Roll" question To: babel-list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ on my copy of "A Heavy Rock & Roll" there are 8 seconds that are repeated. it's at the start of disc 1 track 9 ("Time Is On My Side"), between 0:04 and 0:12, then again between 0:12 and 0:20. during both of these repeated pieces the vocals are: "I'm mater--starting to materialize things out of the air now, one of my many ha--one of my many a habits, yeah" and then those vocals are repeated exactly in the next 8 seconds. is this on everybody's copy of this boot? (I believe it is the boot because it contains the boot's filler exactly as shown at http://www.postmodern.com/%7Efi/pattipics/images/heavy2.jpg ) any help would be greatly appreciated; I'm preparing to seed this show on Dime, and if this repeated piece is on everyone's copies, I plan to edit it out before seeding it. thanks in advance! skywalker (coyote) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From babel-list-owner Wed May 17 21:30:40 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4I4UeBL004208 for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 21:30:40 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k4I4UebO004207 for babel-list-obscured; Wed, 17 May 2006 21:30:40 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.197]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4I4Uchd004201 for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 21:30:38 -0700 Received: from gowron (ool-4576f05e.dyn.optonline.net [69.118.240.94]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.03 (built Sep 22 2005)) with SMTP id <0IZG00D741US1RL6> for babel-list; Thu, 18 May 2006 00:30:29 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 00:30:27 -0400 From: John Lettiere Subject: Free Press : R.E.M. 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MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by penguin.postmodern.com id k4IEwsg5025100 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Don't miss the two sides of FCFT this weekend! (I love this band! http://www.myspace.com/furcups) Friday night FCFT rocks CBs Gallery for THE FEAST OF JOEY, in honor of St. Joey Ramones' birthday. The show is part of an all day, all night orgy of devotional fervor. Join us after the punk pilgrimage and processional for a show at CBs Gallery that features a feast, bands, and a briefly open mic for DIY Ramones covers. So paint some skinny jeans on already, and get ready to show us your power chords. And Saturday night we change it up with an electro set at Flux Factory, as part of their WORKS ON PAPER show. Flux Factory will present paper confections, berries, bands, and the bazaar. We'll bring the sharpies for all you budding artistes, and will provide a canvas of gowns. More info about each show below. Hope to see you this weekend!!! xoxo, FCFT --------------------------------- Friday, May 19th THE FEAST OF JOEY CBs Gallery 8pm - late with performances by: Ramones cover band open mic Deva The Ramoons Fur Cups for Teeth (we go on at midnight) Hungry March Band The celebration starts at noon when the Hungry March Band will lead a punk pilgrimage from the Rock n Roll High School in Forest Hills (where they all went to school), to Tompkins Square Park. According to the HMB there'll be "a Saint Joey statue mounted on an ornate platform carried by disciples, self-flagellating punk martyrs, mystics, and heretics." Need we say more? If you want to get in on the parade or the processional the Hungry March Band wants you! http://www.hungrymarchband.com At 8pm, the Feast of St. Joey begins at CBs Gallery and features the DIY Ramones open mic, HMB, Deva, The Ramoons, FCFT, and a potluck dinner. The door on this is $10, $5 for those who bring food to share, and a percentage of the door is going to the Lymphoma Research Foundation. CBs Gallery http://www.cbgb.com/gallery.html 315 Bowery btw 1st and 2nd ======================================================== Saturday, May 20 6 - 10 p.m. "Works on Paper" Flux Factory's Spring Benefit Bazaar featuring affordable art from over 250 artists and performances by: Fur Cups For Teeth The Love Loves Marla Hooch The Dirty Projectors (DJs start at 7, we kick off the band portion around 8) $2 door fee Flux Factory 38-38 43rd Street Long Island City www.fluxfactory.org ****** Flux Factory began as a collective living space in 1994, in an old spice factory in Williamsburg. About four years later, with a new stage built and twice as many members, the Flux Factory living room evolved into a site for art events and performances of all kinds. The goal of the Flux art collective is to create a forum where Flux artists can collaborate with each other as well as others in an experimental lab that produces new works. Flux Factory is also a public and community space in itself. For more info check out their site. =========================================================== You are a member of the Fur Cups For Teeth email list. If you have any questions or comments, simply reply to this email. For more information go to http://furcupsforteeth.com From babel-list-owner Thu May 18 08:45:16 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4IFjFwE027002 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 08:45:16 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k4IFjF8P027001 for babel-list-obscured; Thu, 18 May 2006 08:45:15 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from imo-m21.mx.aol.com (imo-m21.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.2]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4IFjDbn026989 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 08:45:14 -0700 Received: from Aphinar by imo-m21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.5.) id m.45e.b564a5 (58435) for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 11:44:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Aphinar Message-ID: <45e.b564a5.319df06b> Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 11:44:43 EDT Subject: Tom Verlaine in today's Times To: babel-list (Babel-list) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5300 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Ben Sisario, "A reluctant guitar god makes up for lost time", The New York times, 18 May 2006, section E, page 3 On line, the same article is called "The return of Tom Verlaine: A reluctant guitar god makes up for lost time" : http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/18/arts/music/18verl.html Jay Dillon, who knows more about _the *other* Verlaine_ (http://dogbert.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?bx=on&sts=t&ds=30&vci=221241&bi=0&prh=500&y=7&prl=50&kn=Verl aine&x=18&sortby=1) From babel-list-owner Thu May 18 08:59:28 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4IFxSkj027526 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 08:59:28 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k4IFxSp0027525 for babel-list-obscured; Thu, 18 May 2006 08:59:28 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com (imo-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.35]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4IFxQl3027518 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 08:59:27 -0700 Received: from Aphinar by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.5.) id m.420.16fd8d8 (58435) for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 11:59:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Aphinar Message-ID: <420.16fd8d8.319df3d6> Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 11:59:18 EDT Subject: the _other_ Verlaine, strumming his three-string To: babel-list (Babel-list) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5300 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ . . . which leads me to mention an 1885 caricature of the _other_ Verlaine, strumming his three-string -- _http://pictures.abebooks.com/JAYDILLON/262868202.jpg_ (http://pictures.abebooks.com/JAYDILLON/262868202.jpg) But I digress. Jay Dillon _Jay Dillon Rare Books + Manuscripts, LLC_ (http://www.jaydillon.com/) From babel-list-owner Thu May 18 11:25:17 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4IIPHc2000311 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 11:25:17 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k4IIPHhk000309 for babel-list-obscured; Thu, 18 May 2006 11:25:17 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from mail2.panix.com (mail2.panix.com [166.84.1.73]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4IIPF0T000303 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 11:25:16 -0700 Received: from panix1.panix.com (panix1.panix.com [166.84.1.1]) by mail2.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCA139D904 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 14:25:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from spamtony) by panix1.panix.com (8.11.6p3/8.8.8/PanixN1.1) id k4IIPCM28475 for babel-list; Thu, 18 May 2006 14:25:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200605181825.k4IIPCM28475> Subject: New Tom show on Dime. To: babel-list Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 14:25:12 -0400 (EDT) From: "weapons of mass destruction-related program activities" Reply-To: spamtony (Anthony J. Rzepela) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5+IMAP PL8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ It's D.C., from Monday, rather than Philly on Tuesday, but hey, you can't have everything. :) http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=95921 Reading the taper's comments, it sounds like the crowd was, tragically, as sparse in DC as it was in Philly the night after. From babel-list-owner Fri May 19 02:21:16 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4J9LFi1028011 for ; Fri, 19 May 2006 02:21:15 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k4J9LFhu028010 for babel-list-obscured; Fri, 19 May 2006 02:21:15 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from mail12.svc.cra.dublin.eircom.net (mail12.svc.cra.dublin.eircom.net [159.134.118.28]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with SMTP id k4J9LBeZ028000 for ; Fri, 19 May 2006 02:21:14 -0700 Message-Id: <200605190921.k4J9LBeZ028000> Received: (qmail 99141 messnum 5757940 invoked from network[159.134.237.83/webmail02.eircom.net]); 19 May 2006 09:21:07 -0000 Received: from webmail02.eircom.net (HELO webmail.eircom.net) (159.134.237.83) by mail12.svc.cra.dublin.eircom.net (qp 99141) with SMTP; 19 May 2006 09:21:07 -0000 From: "Garret" To: babel-list Subject: Patti in Ireland this weekend Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 10:21:07 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 81.108.49.187 X-Mailer: Eircom Net CRC Webmail (http://www.eircom.net/) Organization: Eircom Net (http://www.eircom.net/) Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ I'm off to SLigo for a weekend of Patti related events. Hope to see some of yis there. I just hope it does not rain all weekend. GARRET ----------------------------------------------------------------- Find the home of your dreams with eircom net property Sign up for email alerts now http://www.eircom.net/propertyalerts From babel-list-owner Fri May 19 10:09:25 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4JH9Pd0013130 for ; Fri, 19 May 2006 10:09:25 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k4JH9Phx013129 for babel-list-obscured; Fri, 19 May 2006 10:09:25 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from Front-end1.KRONOS.COM (front-end1.kronos.com [158.228.2.31]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4JH9KYK013115 for ; Fri, 19 May 2006 10:09:24 -0700 Received: from exchg-f.KRONOS.COM ([158.228.0.199]) by Front-end1.KRONOS.COM with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 19 May 2006 13:09:19 -0400 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: RE: New Tom show on Dime. Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 13:09:18 -0400 Message-ID: Thread-Topic: New Tom show on Dime. Thread-Index: AcZ6qLGRMUCKfAp7RS+t12EuKWC9AQAvhvCg From: "Gart, Mitchell" To: "Anthony J. Rzepela" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 May 2006 17:09:19.0373 (UTC) FILETIME=[F75F33D0:01C67B66] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by penguin.postmodern.com id k4JH9OYK013123 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ I tried this but I can't get onto Dime because they are not accepting any new users. I had never done it before but was going to try it out. Are there any plans to put this up on a web site :-) Thanks, - Mitch > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-babel-list > [mailto:owner-babel-list] On Behalf Of weapons > of mass destruction-related program activities > Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 2:25 PM > To: babel-list > Subject: New Tom show on Dime. > > It's D.C., from Monday, rather than Philly on Tuesday, > but hey, you can't have everything. :) > > http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=95921 > > Reading the taper's comments, it sounds like the crowd > was, tragically, as sparse in DC as it was in Philly > the night after. From babel-list-owner Fri May 19 21:56:43 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4K4uh3b005160 for ; Fri, 19 May 2006 21:56:43 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k4K4uhB6005159 for babel-list-obscured; Fri, 19 May 2006 21:56:43 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from web37306.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web37306.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.87.44]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with SMTP id k4K4ufHQ005151 for ; Fri, 19 May 2006 21:56:42 -0700 Received: (qmail 29152 invoked by uid 60001); 20 May 2006 04:56:41 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Apdafy4po5mqLFeJcL8+F5gC3KXK0Bjya9w28MJnHb2QrS3BEi4hahLcuRvQcIR13mFpPGbePmnZt3QeUMXbLRmQnz6dIh3Fh33j2gx0NOXsPWMIWIGDHQ4dQckbSyuJBQCADCORGzENlmtTOBtfhk+HHVWB4uVZA5qpEwAz7Dc= ; Message-ID: <20060520045641.29150.qmail> Received: from [71.198.247.74] by web37306.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 19 May 2006 21:56:41 PDT Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 21:56:41 -0700 (PDT) From: skywalker Subject: Patti 7/30/03 SBD on Dime To: eternalcafe, babel-list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Patti 7/30/03 Montagnola, Switzerland FM SBD is on Dime at http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=96302 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From babel-list-owner Sat May 20 05:17:45 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4KCHhBW020694 for ; Sat, 20 May 2006 05:17:44 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k4KCHhuX020693 for babel-list-obscured; Sat, 20 May 2006 05:17:43 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from web82001.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web82001.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.178.245]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with SMTP id k4KCHeUH020685 for ; Sat, 20 May 2006 05:17:42 -0700 Received: (qmail 67638 invoked by uid 60001); 20 May 2006 12:17:37 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=ameritech.net; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Ygw1Mck+vA059uKwVfq0omw0wwBSh1ydZe5dBvexiTTUmRx6AeMMxoVbM7eNcDYlRzgAG1Xeqv+iOj4vNQMZsLVXfxaWSaNYFwpzGzx26ETyhUGUwSrPE/YQp2MZV8uRUOOaxbz+IdlxO/ZPaG4fagao28GYhYBxp0Ckon4d2+E= ; Message-ID: <20060520121737.67636.qmail> Received: from [71.57.126.157] by web82001.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 20 May 2006 05:17:37 PDT Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 05:17:37 -0700 (PDT) From: TOM MOHR Subject: RE: New Tom show on Dime. To: babel-list In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Last I heard, Dime is taking new users only as old ones leave. They had 100,000 users at one point, and I think the story is that their servers couldn't handle that many. I've read people on other lists, saying that it might take a day or two of trying, but eventually one can sign up. TWM "Gart, Mitchell" wrote: I tried this but I can't get onto Dime because they are not accepting any new users. I had never done it before but was going to try it out. Are there any plans to put this up on a web site :-) Thanks, - Mitch > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-babel-list > [mailto:owner-babel-list] On Behalf Of weapons > of mass destruction-related program activities > Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 2:25 PM > To: babel-list > Subject: New Tom show on Dime. > > It's D.C., from Monday, rather than Philly on Tuesday, > but hey, you can't have everything. :) > > http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=95921 > > Reading the taper's comments, it sounds like the crowd > was, tragically, as sparse in DC as it was in Philly > the night after. From babel-list-owner Sat May 20 06:35:31 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4KDZV5X023795 for ; Sat, 20 May 2006 06:35:31 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k4KDZVrA023794 for babel-list-obscured; Sat, 20 May 2006 06:35:31 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from web37314.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web37314.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.87.52]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with SMTP id k4KDZTps023785 for ; Sat, 20 May 2006 06:35:30 -0700 Received: (qmail 33570 invoked by uid 60001); 20 May 2006 13:35:25 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=pe0Rj9Qfwl6E3uhG+R7vQcnl7DgVo1NmFf1dSCg7b8TW0usk/m8mKOqvS/5I1wWRrqvHV3bPJJ37LDAwmTF9BbjaKF3pk9BtlSyg9yqrXBbiOzbJlUPeEYwsewqgHPlT7u/E2jLH9ch6lqhyqyoinB0R1RvLYbv+EII6BFDUKmk= ; Message-ID: <20060520133525.33568.qmail> Received: from [71.198.247.74] by web37314.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 20 May 2006 06:35:25 PDT Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 06:35:25 -0700 (PDT) From: skywalker Subject: seeking 7/3/01 recording info To: babel-list, eternalcafe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ what was the bitrate of the digital broadcast/webcast of Patti 7/3/01 Vienna? (it cirulates as an FM broadcast, but appears not to be per frequency/spectral analysis; if the bitrate is known I may be able to seed it on Dime.) thanks! coyote __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From babel-list-owner Sat May 20 07:11:26 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4KEBQOh025424 for ; Sat, 20 May 2006 07:11:26 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k4KEBPae025423 for babel-list-obscured; Sat, 20 May 2006 07:11:25 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from ylpvm01.prodigy.net (ylpvm01-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.57.32]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4KEBNcB025417 for ; Sat, 20 May 2006 07:11:24 -0700 Received: from pimout6-ext.prodigy.net (pimout6-int.prodigy.net [207.115.4.22]) by ylpvm01.prodigy.net (8.12.10 outbound/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k4KEBJpW000463 for ; Sat, 20 May 2006 10:11:19 -0400 X-ORBL: [70.132.40.218] DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=sbc01; d=pacbell.net; c=nofws; q=dns; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:x-mimeole:in-reply-to:importance; b=RQgB2CmBtRCP9INis9lfTl13czvxImjTJLlrhTP/Gmev7pQJQF5PNoSnSdnsYNEQ2 O+bmvln533H8XS8LIZoJw== Received: from timmay (adsl-70-132-40-218.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net [70.132.40.218]) by pimout6-ext.prodigy.net (8.13.6 out.dk/8.13.6) with SMTP id k4KEBIV1190686 for ; Sat, 20 May 2006 10:11:21 -0400 From: "Jim" To: Subject: RE: New Tom show on Dime. Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 07:09:48 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20060520121737.67636.qmail> Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ this is correct. Their servers started to overload due to the sheer number of people accessing them, so they capped it at 100,000. They clean up old, idle accounts daily, and from comments that people post there it seems that if you're tenacious, and keep at it, you can get signed up eventually. - jim "I stand by this man. I stand by this man because he stands for things. Not only for things, he stands on things. Things like aircraft carriers and rubble and recently flooded city squares. And that sends a strong message, that no matter what happens to America, she will always rebound -- with the most powerfully staged photo ops in the world." - S Colbert "toasting" G Bush -----Original Message----- From: owner-babel-list [mailto:owner-babel-list]On Behalf Of TOM MOHR Last I heard, Dime is taking new users only as old ones leave. They had 100,000 users at one point, and I think the story is that their servers couldn't handle that many. I've read people on other lists, saying that it might take a day or two of trying, but eventually one can sign up. TWM "Gart, Mitchell" wrote: I tried this but I can't get onto Dime because they are not accepting any new users. From babel-list-owner Sat May 20 09:02:34 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4KG2Vmn029698 for ; Sat, 20 May 2006 09:02:34 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k4KG2Uro029695 for babel-list-obscured; Sat, 20 May 2006 09:02:30 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.195]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4KG2Rvw029687 for ; Sat, 20 May 2006 09:02:29 -0700 Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id m22so719673nzf for ; Sat, 20 May 2006 09:02:34 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=kygAPNjjpWWH80c06bkE+D+NgMx1XUnNAY+aDXzTnOUiCIE2xq/SYVgK9BxSZp4IDnUa7lzrrFltA+vwAcG/ohNV6gVws8pKJ16uJKfLG6THrtHlb9vWlH8QSpnodeMomxZAnWE69L9g3kMP90CBPCdXKFp+FPq0VjXdnV0KDQ4= Received: by 10.64.241.11 with SMTP id o11mr2150844qbh; Sat, 20 May 2006 09:02:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.197.2 with HTTP; Sat, 20 May 2006 09:02:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6f10fa9d0605200902w765837c8u36de8fb95db73e7> Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 09:02:34 -0700 From: "Dennis Moore" To: Babel-list Subject: Patti on the Dept of State's radar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by penguin.postmodern.com id k4KG2Uvw029691 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Members of the U.S. "Baby Boom" Turn 60 Generation that defined American youth culture faces retirement By Elizabeth Kelleher Washington File Staff Writer [snip] The generation's leading edge, which includes Presidents Bill Clinton and George W. Bush, first lady Laura Bush, tycoon Donald Trump, director Steven Spielberg and punk-rocker Patti Smith [only mention], turns 60 in 2006. "Boomers broke the mold in every earlier life cycle," said demographer William Frey of the Brookings Institution. They will approach old age differently too. In fact, they plan to skip it. In a poll by research firm Yankelovich Inc., boomers were asked, "At what age does old age start?" Their answer: three years after the average American dies. [snip] http://usinfo.state.gov/scv/Archive/2006/May/19-8091.html From babel-list-owner Sun May 21 07:30:04 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4LEU2XL003558 for ; Sun, 21 May 2006 07:30:03 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k4LEU2pT003557 for babel-list-obscured; Sun, 21 May 2006 07:30:02 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from mail13.svc.cra.dublin.eircom.net (mail13.svc.cra.dublin.eircom.net [159.134.118.29]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with SMTP id k4LETw45003543 for ; Sun, 21 May 2006 07:30:00 -0700 Message-Id: <200605211430.k4LETw45003543> Received: (qmail 91467 messnum 4213722 invoked from network[159.134.237.77/webmail00.eircom.net]); 21 May 2006 14:29:55 -0000 Received: from webmail00.eircom.net (HELO webmail.eircom.net) (159.134.237.77) by mail13.svc.cra.dublin.eircom.net (qp 91467) with SMTP; 21 May 2006 14:29:55 -0000 From: "Garret" To: babel-list Subject: Exhibition and gig in Sligo Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 15:29:55 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 81.108.49.187 X-Mailer: Eircom Net CRC Webmail (http://www.eircom.net/) Organization: Eircom Net (http://www.eircom.net/) Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ The exhibition is impressive, a lot more work than i expected. Patti's work is very interesting but my fingers are cold so typing is not easy right now. JOhn Smith gave a nice introduction to the work encouraging people on the guided tour to join in (fair play to those who did, it was very interesting listening to you all talk). I had a ticket to the public interview today but decided not to go (how torn i was) as i have a big day tomorrow and needed to get back to Dublin to prepare. The gig at the gallery was good. I was one of the first to arrive at the gallery, but in the space of time it took me to go to the toilet a queue formed and my seat was not as close to the stage as i had wanted. However, the venue was so small that every seat was great. When we walked in, there was a grand piano, one accoustic guitar, and two stools on stage. I could hear people speculating; many thought it would be Lenny kaye that would accompany Patti although i did hear some people wonder about Oliver Ray. Maybe the piano was a bit of a giveaway. I don't recall there being too many gigs with just Tony and Patti so this was special . Tony brought a guitar on stage with him. (i may not have hte order of things right) Patti explained her connectoin with Yeats (having written a paper on him when she was about 18 she promised that one day she would travel to Sligo to see his grace, and now she has;-) Beneath the SOuthern Cross. Tony and Patti on guitar. There was something a bit out of tune or out of key or something wiht the guitars and Patti seemed apologetic but then realised that it was Tony and not her. She thought this a momentous occasion and said that she couldn't wait to tell the rest of hte band. She said that Tony is always in tune (in fact, she said, he is the only one of them ever in tune and that he tunes everyone elses guitars for them). They moved into Grateful, with Patti expressing how grateful we all are having known or heard Jerry Garcia. People Have The Power - spoken The Jackson Song - Tony on Piano SHe introduced this saying how much Jackson hates it. Trampin' - Tony on piano. Patti spoke all about Marian Anderson and the Daughters of hte American Revolution and Eleanor Roosevelt. Mother Rose - Tony on piano. from two great women to another one - "my mother". This was rather lovely. Peaceable Kingdom - Tony on piano. "I hope you like it" I'm so lonesome i could cry - Tony and Patti on guitar. They had not planned on playing this song but the music playing before she came on reminded her of this song. She introduced it as "Tony's penance" but having messed up guitar and lyrics a few times she finished the song laughing, saying "that was bad - maybe it was my penance" My Blakean Year - Both on guitar. Dancing Barefoot - Tony on guitar. great performance. Wing - Tony on guitar. Patti introduced this as the song written for Jesse and that she does not hate it. Because The NIght - Patti encouraged the audience to sing this one with her as Tony played hte piano. There was some poetry thrown in too; i remember the following were read (but don't know what order or where they fit in): Wilderness The geometry blinked ruin unimaginable Death of a tramp The writer's song Don't remember anythng else, but i may have forgotten. 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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From babel-list-owner Sun May 21 23:39:18 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4M6dIX7011261 for ; Sun, 21 May 2006 23:39:18 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k4M6dIkt011260 for babel-list-obscured; Sun, 21 May 2006 23:39:18 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from sunfep1.cogeco.net (smtp.cogeco.net [216.221.81.25]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4M6dG8N011255 for ; Sun, 21 May 2006 23:39:16 -0700 Received: from dell (d141-40-159.home.cgocable.net [24.141.40.159]) by sunfep1.cogeco.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 8A3741DA2; Mon, 22 May 2006 02:39:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000901c67d6a$ae036020$9f288d18> From: "Yvonne Le Fort" To: , , Subject: Archives e-zine for The Enthusiast magazine Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 02:40:55 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/mixed by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was multipart/alternative Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ http://www.ymlp.com/pubarchive_show_message.php?theenthusiast+2 [demime 1.01a removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of Archives e-zine for The Enthusiast magazine.url] From babel-list-owner Mon May 22 04:55:39 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4MBtbax030309 for ; Mon, 22 May 2006 04:55:38 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k4MBtamE030308 for babel-list-obscured; Mon, 22 May 2006 04:55:36 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from Front-end2.KRONOS.COM (front-end2.kronos.com [158.228.2.30]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4MBtYGp030290 for ; Mon, 22 May 2006 04:55:35 -0700 Received: from exchg-f.KRONOS.COM ([158.228.0.199]) by Front-end2.KRONOS.COM with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 22 May 2006 07:55:29 -0400 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: New York Doll (NPC) Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 07:55:29 -0400 Message-ID: Thread-Topic: New York Doll (NPC) Thread-Index: AcZ9lp+BXnJSRi73R42y+gHfeVgdUA== From: "Gart, Mitchell" To: "babel-list" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 May 2006 11:55:29.0803 (UTC) FILETIME=[9F5015B0:01C67D96] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by penguin.postmodern.com id k4MBtaGp030304 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ I just rented the movie New York Doll. I may have even heard about it on babel-list, not sure. It's about Arthur Kane, the Dolls' bass player. It's a really great movie, both fun and sad. I think anyone who likes the Dolls would enjoy seeing it. Also anyone who used to be a wild teenager and now is getting older, which probably includes a lot of us :-) - Mitch From babel-list-owner Mon May 22 08:03:34 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4MF3WdR007141 for ; Mon, 22 May 2006 08:03:33 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k4MF3W97007140 for babel-list-obscured; Mon, 22 May 2006 08:03:32 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from mail2.panix.com (mail2.panix.com [166.84.1.73]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4MF3VN0007133 for ; Mon, 22 May 2006 08:03:31 -0700 Received: from panix3.panix.com (panix3.panix.com [166.84.1.3]) by mail2.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FA7B9D958 for ; Mon, 22 May 2006 11:03:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from spamtony) by panix3.panix.com (8.11.6p3/8.8.8/PanixN1.1) id k4MF3Q824429 for babel-list; Mon, 22 May 2006 11:03:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200605221503.k4MF3Q824429> Subject: Jay Dee and Tony S. on Tom V.'s CD To: babel-list Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 11:03:26 -0400 (EDT) From: "weapons of mass destruction-related program activities" Reply-To: spamtony (Anthony J. Rzepela) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5+IMAP PL8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Track 12 of Tom Verlaine's "Songs and Other Things" CD (song title: "All Weirded Out") has Jay Dee Daugherty on drums, and Tony Shanahan on bass. JDD also plays drums on track 1 ("A Parade in Littleton"). From babel-list-owner Mon May 22 10:43:35 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4MHhY4Q013114 for ; Mon, 22 May 2006 10:43:35 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k4MHhX0e013113 for babel-list-obscured; Mon, 22 May 2006 10:43:33 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from web37307.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web37307.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.87.45]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with SMTP id k4MHhVQ0013106 for ; Mon, 22 May 2006 10:43:32 -0700 Received: (qmail 91122 invoked by uid 60001); 22 May 2006 17:43:27 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=hKcQDUPZkJ/R1SubB5Sg7BWtvT18qSmK6odcGsJkDA8iu1f/hLRAde4Olrw01beJz/tySbGO4X7CQQgL4SjP3Fgkftvst+dPhknEJcvarW2VMFG7tiPgUopPQE3SEWfcsLUQQd6vPqy7i/ksS/L7wEoW1mAaGiczVfnk/zkqELA= ; Message-ID: <20060522174327.91120.qmail> Received: from [71.198.247.74] by web37307.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 22 May 2006 10:43:27 PDT Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 10:43:27 -0700 (PDT) From: skywalker Subject: looking for Patti 5/12/79 Amherst To: babel-list, eternalcafe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ I'd love to trade for Patti's 5/12/79 Amherst (the afternoon) show on disc. (what other shows on that tour did Patti open for the Grateful Dead?) thanks! coyote __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From babel-list-owner Wed May 24 20:56:20 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4P3uK0P006181 for ; Wed, 24 May 2006 20:56:20 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k4P3uK0g006180 for babel-list-obscured; Wed, 24 May 2006 20:56:20 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from web37305.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web37305.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.87.43]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with SMTP id k4P3uIcu006171 for ; Wed, 24 May 2006 20:56:19 -0700 Received: (qmail 70989 invoked by uid 60001); 25 May 2006 03:56:15 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=IbuMB0srYjCGHBN5/9nXgK0FXyj/gBUJ5UROJsD4TIlyVVLmJcYWkbFt63buTHbjjqKjvHuOOxR9LrwPZKmSRx8vw05XUXYbrRNPBKLcPXmmYon9vBP8rRsdu3pvTkr6zDihunPq8dRccso/nuRU6yZsNa/f0RqGhpcq9uxRJzc= ; Message-ID: <20060525035615.70987.qmail> Received: from [71.198.247.74] by web37305.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 24 May 2006 20:56:15 PDT Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 20:56:15 -0700 (PDT) From: skywalker Subject: Patti 6/5/01 on Dime To: babel-list, eternalcafe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Patti's 6/5/01 Village Underground show is on Dime at http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=96991 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From babel-list-owner Thu May 25 09:24:00 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4PGO04S012317 for ; Thu, 25 May 2006 09:24:00 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k4PGO0Pj012316 for babel-list-obscured; Thu, 25 May 2006 09:24:00 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from qb-out-0506.google.com (qb-out-0506.google.com [72.14.204.228]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4PGNwIH012311 for ; Thu, 25 May 2006 09:23:59 -0700 Received: by qb-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id p36so359213qba for ; Thu, 25 May 2006 09:23:59 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=ShRdtY8ELJJsQ4F7MbtuKyat9hhF632mJZeuACITo9XVS/uPnOei1LPEdp8alvxWh+YcwajwPi9/QHqo+vBLRqxwdGvDQL3Fr5qFsbFVvAqNtayTW4lxBpRygyLj27LGdNsktkJ52d1uJohNSor1SkzMdk+GOh5Lxfg/xLaeEFY= Received: by 10.64.152.3 with SMTP id z3mr4353279qbd; Thu, 25 May 2006 09:23:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.197.2 with HTTP; Thu, 25 May 2006 09:23:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6f10fa9d0605250923v4a8afce6haaed5860658f7d61> Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 09:23:59 -0700 From: "Dennis Moore" To: Babel-list Subject: Patti plays Jersey City 6/25 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by penguin.postmodern.com id k4PGNxIH012312 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ from pollstar.com: Sun 06/25/06 Jersey City, NJ Liberty State Park From babel-list-owner Thu May 25 09:28:40 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4PGSeEr012479 for ; Thu, 25 May 2006 09:28:40 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k4PGSerN012478 for babel-list-obscured; Thu, 25 May 2006 09:28:40 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.200]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4PGSc80012473 for ; Thu, 25 May 2006 09:28:39 -0700 Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id i1so1847977nzh for ; Thu, 25 May 2006 09:28:40 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=kNosBKA5xO8JTN2VZnAxVZtCwsz54mqcyJHLoUk5SkeaW3ui3YVZbGOTDpcgMdTlNajBbpEKMLNG/IgnHmOZVLoJzUn0zoDgEiTS+NuqFuux5Mf3BsZPClQLXLbYP571T59xCOVlNeq5XLZQhiEzbtd/AyApj0yn9XcJdvE9Lmw= Received: by 10.64.152.18 with SMTP id z18mr4347761qbd; Thu, 25 May 2006 09:28:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.197.2 with HTTP; Thu, 25 May 2006 09:28:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6f10fa9d0605250928l3d1e3941u2f91abd294716a38> Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 09:28:39 -0700 From: "Dennis Moore" To: Babel-list Subject: The New York Art Scene, 1974-84 at The Warhol MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by penguin.postmodern.com id k4PGSd80012474 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ When art met punk / The Warhol takes us back to the messy creativity of New York in the '70s Thursday, May 25, 2006 By Mary Thomas, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06145/692910-42.stm It's uncanny how quickly a visitor drops back three decades once inside "The Downtown Show: The New York Scene, 1974-84," which rolls open its doors at The Andy Warhol Museum Saturday. Part artwork, part archive, part titillation, part nostalgia, this is as close a visit to the era as you can get, or maybe would want. It will speak directly to those who lived it as well as to the younger generations that have granted the period mythological status. The cast is star-studded, including Patti Smith, Keith Haring, Nam June Paik, Jenny Holzer, Richard Hell, Carolee Schneemann, David Wojnarowicz, Laurie Anderson, Philip Glass, Vito Acconci, Karen Finley, Robert Mapplethorpe, Cindy Sherman. You get the idea. Artists represented are a checklist of the seminal and/or the famed, the living and the missing. "AIDS is the spectre that kind of hangs over this show," says John Smith, Warhol assistant director for collections and research, who will leave the museum next month to become director of the Smithsonian Institution's Archives of American Art. "It hit a lot of these artists either during their prime or before they were able to achieve it." The decade was bracketed politically, Smith says, by Watergate and the end of the Summer of Love, and the identification and naming of the AIDS crisis. The exhibition was organized by the Grey Art Gallery and Fales Library and Special Collections at New York University. It was curated by the perennially hip and knowing Carlo McCormick, Paper magazine senior editor and popular culture critic, who'll conduct a tour of the exhibition at noon Sunday. With approximately 175 artists represented through more than 375 paintings, sculptures, drawings, videos and photographs, the show's more a celebration of the concentrated dynamic than of any individual. Also displayed are more than 70 items from the Fales Library rare book and manuscript collection, including posters, artists' journals and exhibition announcements. The exhibition seemed a good match for The Warhol, Smith says. It has a preponderance of archival materials, it has a great mix of film and video material, and it offers many programming possibilities. "It's a great collective look at that period -- what we like to do," he says. There's also a connection with Andy Warhol. The way the artists were moving back and forth among disciplines -- a painter is also in a rock band is also doing performance -- is a sort of Warholian idea, Smith says. "There's a fluidity in how one was defining oneself in that period that continues to be an interest of young artists [today]." SoHo and the Lower East Side were then affordable for young and/or experimental artists. "There were amazing spaces in which to live for very little money. That kind of creative activity is now being forced out of Manhattan to different parts of New York." Interestingly, although Warhol influenced young artists in a significant way during those years, his own reputation as an artist was such that he was hard pressed to get an exhibition in New York, Smith says. Artists trying to emulate Warhol were creating their own "Silver Factories, if you will." But Warhol was in crisis at that time. In the mid- and late 1970s Warhol was not taken seriously, Smith says. It was his work with Jean-Michel Basquiat in the early 1980s that returned him to the spotlight. "I think [the mid-1970s] were really conflicted years for Warhol," Smith says. "The art world had changed. It was the height of Minimalism, Conceptual Art. Warhol wasn't the name on the tip of everyone's tongue." The later artists in the "Downtown Show," Smith says, were not only acting on the influences of Warhol, but they were also acting against the formality of Minimalism. They were saying "art can be messy and art doesn't have to have so many rules." The range of the exhibition is reflected in the eight sections it's divided into: "Interventions," exploring the connection between the proliferation of nonprofit exhibition sites and artworks engaging Downtown settings (which may have particular relevance to contemporary Pittsburgh, where storefront art is spreading and the monthlong live-in performance "Looking In, Looking Out," currently at 922 Penn Ave., addresses living and the cultural scene Downtown -- Pittsburgh, that is); "Broken Stories," new structuring of narrative by visual artists, filmmakers and writers; "De-Signs," investigating advertising strategies; "Salon de Refuse," the "trash culture" that challenged hierarchies; "Body Politics," sexuality and identity politics; "Sublime Time," the new sublime post-Minimalism; "The Portrait Gallery," images of key figures; and "The Mock Shop," re-creating the stores that critiqued consumer culture by offering the likes of low-cost multiples. "The importance of this show is not so much that it's a collection of masterpieces," Smith says. "It's to give one a sense of what a vibrant and exciting period this was and also how we're still feeling the legacy of that period, that time. "Also the way the work of artists finds its way into popular culture -- using popular culture, but also having a dramatic effect on popular culture." Schedule of events: The Downtown Show: The New York Art Scene, 1974-84 'The "F" Word' Where: The Andy Warhol Museum, North Shore. When: Saturday through Sept. 3. Hours: 10 a.m.-5 p.m. Tuesdays through Sundays and until 10 p.m. Fridays. Admission: $10, seniors $7, students/children $6, after 5 p.m. Fridays half-price, members free. Information: 412-237-8300 or www.warhol.org. From babel-list-owner Thu May 25 11:31:18 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4PIVIa6017161 for ; Thu, 25 May 2006 11:31:18 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k4PIVIWR017160 for babel-list-obscured; Thu, 25 May 2006 11:31:18 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from sccrmhc14.comcast.net (sccrmhc14.comcast.net [204.127.200.84]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4PIVFW3017143 for ; Thu, 25 May 2006 11:31:17 -0700 Received: from Gateway503GR (c-71-232-7-130.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[71.232.7.130]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc14) with SMTP id <2006052518311201400kq3e7e>; Thu, 25 May 2006 18:31:13 +0000 Message-ID: <001001c68029$66c6d900$8207e847> From: "ggull" To: References: <20060522174327.91120.qmail> Subject: Re: looking for Patti 5/12/79 Amherst Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 14:31:12 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "skywalker" > I'd love to trade for Patti's 5/12/79 Amherst (the afternoon) show on > disc. > > (what other shows on that tour did Patti open for the Grateful Dead?) > > thanks! > coyote I have auds of both the Dead show and Patti's opener that day. (Not sure what time of day it was.) This is the show with Patti's famous little bit about wandering out from backstage at an earlier Dead show (during a long instrumental, drawn by the microphone) then getting dragged off ... imagine if she'd been allowed to cut loose with a babelogue :-) Here's the Patti info: Disk 1 (Patti Smith Group) 01. Redondo Beach 02. Mr.Tambourine Man 03. 25th Floor 04. It's So Hard 05. Patti's Grateful Dead Fillmore East Story 06. Jailhouse Rock 07. Because the Night 08. Seven Ways Of Going 09. Gloria/cut Disk 1: AUD LINEAGE UNKNOWN > CASSETTE > M-AUDIO TRANSIT > COOL EDIT > CD WAVE EDITOR > FLAC I have no idea what "M-AUDIO TRANSIT" signifies ;-). Right now it's in flac (lossless compressed) format, both Dead and Patti on a single DVD. The MD5's check out, but I haven't had a chance to listen to it yet. I'm copying it to the hard drive as I type and will give it at least a spot check in the next day or few. I'd be happy to set up trades, either as flac or audio CD. [A bit later ... the sound quality is ok if you're used to traded cassettes. Some tape hiss, but at least I find it listenable. Haven't listened tothe Dead sets yet.] I'm pretty sure this was the only show Patti opened for the Dead. From babel-list-owner Fri May 26 05:14:40 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4QCEdwi020924 for ; Fri, 26 May 2006 05:14:40 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k4QCEd6c020923 for babel-list-obscured; Fri, 26 May 2006 05:14:39 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from mail1.panix.com (mail1.panix.com [166.84.1.72]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4QCEce6020917 for ; Fri, 26 May 2006 05:14:39 -0700 Received: from panix1.panix.com (panix1.panix.com [166.84.1.1]) by mail1.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70CC859812; Fri, 26 May 2006 08:14:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from spamtony) by panix1.panix.com (8.11.6p3/8.8.8/PanixN1.1) id k4QCEZq12572; Fri, 26 May 2006 08:14:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200605261214.k4QCEZq12572> Subject: Re: looking for Patti 5/12/79 Amherst To: ggull (ggull) Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 08:14:35 -0400 (EDT) From: "weapons of mass destruction-related program activities" Cc: babel-list In-Reply-To: Reply-To: spamtony (Anthony J. Rzepela) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5+IMAP PL8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ ggull (ggull) wrote: > AUD LINEAGE UNKNOWN > CASSETTE > M-AUDIO TRANSIT > COOL EDIT > CD WAVE > EDITOR > FLAC > > I have no idea what "M-AUDIO TRANSIT" signifies ;-). Here's an answer: http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/Transit-main.html I use another of their 24/96 products - a PCI card - in an oldish system I dedicated to music. They make nice stuff at a semi-reasonable price if you're thinking about getting a sound card that isn't the $9.99 Soundblaster special from Staples. From babel-list-owner Fri May 26 06:36:25 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4QDaPhr024480 for ; Fri, 26 May 2006 06:36:25 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k4QDaPh9024479 for babel-list-obscured; Fri, 26 May 2006 06:36:25 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from qb-out-0506.google.com (qb-out-0506.google.com [72.14.204.229]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4QDaMlZ024474 for ; Fri, 26 May 2006 06:36:24 -0700 Received: by qb-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id a39so8863qbd for ; Fri, 26 May 2006 06:36:24 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=lspii2zbXueBMwE733tQszzp+8TctLoHk0Bj2YShT+yTMgHZRufZjhYi4Mt1qomQpCPUWqsCEyFebuGWC2fJyy0fFJKODaHcHoyiykmncXGR8aQMvglSPUEl6STcYF8vp12YUYtx1jUMIAxGA9j7zawt6wuGF76ztKFcejAll14= Received: by 10.64.114.10 with SMTP id m10mr1594344qbc; Fri, 26 May 2006 06:36:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.181.10 with HTTP; Fri, 26 May 2006 06:36:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6f10fa9d0605260636t175e424bu7f7e57440eacf2ff> Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 06:36:24 -0700 From: "Dennis Moore" To: Babel-list Subject: Patti (?) will sing the National Anthem in Peoria on Memorial Day MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by penguin.postmodern.com id k4QDaOlZ024475 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Theme for Marines on Sunday: 'I remember' Thursday, May 25, 2006 http://www.pjstar.com/stories/052506/AM__B9TUNGAQ.006.shtml PEORIA - Memorial Day ceremonies on Soldier Hill in Springdale Cemetery will be held at 2:30 p.m. Sunday in Springdale Cemetery with Marine veterans from World War II, Korea and Iraq as speakers. The program is co-sponsored by the Soldier Hill Volunteers and the U.S. Marine Corps Reserve. [snip] Patti Smith will sing the National Anthem and Dr. Robert DeGise will lead the Pledge of Allegiance. Pride of Peoria Barbershop Chorus will present a medley of patriotic songs and the program will end with Allgaier's playing "Taps" and "Amazing Grace" sung by Susie Woo. [snip] From babel-list-owner Fri May 26 06:43:39 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4QDhdb0024772 for ; Fri, 26 May 2006 06:43:39 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k4QDhdfL024771 for babel-list-obscured; Fri, 26 May 2006 06:43:39 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from web31307.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web31307.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.102]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with SMTP id k4QDhbWx024761 for ; Fri, 26 May 2006 06:43:38 -0700 Received: (qmail 34359 invoked by uid 60001); 26 May 2006 13:43:36 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=xQ4Hn1gAQ7yJAu1+N2791Yq5azYdWXqUXGWhUghkwVvND1rckcUWeJ164mOrz5swpqnOJh+c6G55Z7FicyvsWyrJ7ZVxkV+YVb9miQ6hFN2MdaaLjQErHJr6c594aId/eQg4QsyYQUkG0Nu9YUUx/taSLau1vZ2iYhGu8u0A6R8= ; Message-ID: <20060526134336.34357.qmail> Received: from [69.173.11.85] by web31307.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 26 May 2006 06:43:36 PDT Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 06:43:36 -0700 (PDT) From: John Reder Subject: If anyone is interested To: babel-list In-Reply-To: <200605260900.k4Q901pR013317> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ If anyone is interested if have some Patti pictures at http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/johnjreder/album?.dir=c3b4re2&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/johnjreder/my_photos Not related, but if anyone is interested, I have some pictures of plymouth, Massachusetts at http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/johnjreder/album?.dir=ced5&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/ph//my_photos John J. 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From babel-list-owner Fri May 26 06:49:04 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4QDn3oG024975 for ; Fri, 26 May 2006 06:49:04 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k4QDn3qY024974 for babel-list-obscured; Fri, 26 May 2006 06:49:03 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from Front-end2.KRONOS.COM (front-end2.kronos.com [158.228.2.30]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4QDn0Ph024967 for ; Fri, 26 May 2006 06:49:02 -0700 Received: from exchg-f.KRONOS.COM ([158.228.0.199]) by Front-end2.KRONOS.COM with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 26 May 2006 09:48:54 -0400 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Subject: RE: Patti (?) will sing the National Anthem in Peoria on Memorial Day Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 09:48:54 -0400 Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Patti (?) will sing the National Anthem in Peoria on Memorial Day thread-index: AcaAyaO5zng6fd/nQhSIAyHeKaUWMQAAWl2A From: "Gart, Mitchell" To: "Dennis Moore" , "Babel-list" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 May 2006 13:48:54.0543 (UTC) FILETIME=[20E801F0:01C680CB] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by penguin.postmodern.com id k4QDn2Ph024968 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ This might be our Patti or it might be the other one. If it's our Patti how about if she read the Declaration of Independence too? - Mitch > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-babel-list > [mailto:owner-babel-list] On Behalf Of Dennis Moore > Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 9:36 AM > To: Babel-list > Subject: Patti (?) will sing the National Anthem in Peoria on > Memorial Day > > Theme for Marines on Sunday: 'I remember' > Thursday, May 25, 2006 > http://www.pjstar.com/stories/052506/AM__B9TUNGAQ.006.shtml > > PEORIA - Memorial Day ceremonies on Soldier Hill in Springdale > Cemetery will be held at 2:30 p.m. Sunday in Springdale Cemetery with > Marine veterans from World War II, Korea and Iraq as speakers. > > The program is co-sponsored by the Soldier Hill Volunteers and the > U.S. Marine Corps Reserve. [snip] > > Patti Smith will sing the National Anthem and Dr. Robert DeGise will > lead the Pledge of Allegiance. > > Pride of Peoria Barbershop Chorus will present a medley of patriotic > songs and the program will end with Allgaier's playing "Taps" and > "Amazing Grace" sung by Susie Woo. > > [snip] From babel-list-owner Fri May 26 21:21:33 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4R4LXCG029484 for ; Fri, 26 May 2006 21:21:33 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k4R4LXkf029483 for babel-list-obscured; Fri, 26 May 2006 21:21:33 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from web37305.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web37305.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.87.43]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with SMTP id k4R4LVdF029472 for ; Fri, 26 May 2006 21:21:32 -0700 Received: (qmail 61259 invoked by uid 60001); 27 May 2006 04:21:36 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=3g3C577ZL1GpIxjQiuc5C5qyf8l8VWDDwv5/wCmfMB1bXZdwBr4qiQl//SU0H2z5MJ7Ulc93H9NF9w33U8hMqxub/X92XzvWYPQkWCHckScXLLrUkZCFgrIE3XVoWsupB+7LoadVxBwVd9IWhWWvZof9f4FLkjx3wOEyTvqx4yw= ; Message-ID: <20060527042136.61257.qmail> Received: from [71.198.247.74] by web37305.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 26 May 2006 21:21:36 PDT Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 21:21:36 -0700 (PDT) From: skywalker Subject: Patti 12/30/01 on Dime To: eternalcafe, babel-list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Patti's 12/30/01 show is on Dime at http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=97278 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From babel-list-owner Sat May 27 05:34:18 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4RCYIw6032548 for ; Sat, 27 May 2006 05:34:18 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k4RCYID8032547 for babel-list-obscured; Sat, 27 May 2006 05:34:18 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from smtpauth08.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth08.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.68]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4RCYGJa032541 for ; Sat, 27 May 2006 05:34:17 -0700 Received: from [64.131.135.74] (helo=[192.168.0.117]) by smtpauth08.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Fjxzl-0007xf-0y for babel-list; Sat, 27 May 2006 08:34:17 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: drjenkins@pop.mindspring.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <200605270900.k4R900ua008986> References: <200605270900.k4R900ua008986> Date: Sat, 27 May 2006 08:34:08 -0400 To: babel-list From: David Jenkins Subject: RE: Patti (?) will sing the National Anthem in Peoria on Memorial Day Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: a7a533dc8a1497f0f0192d9b7275efdfd4c20f6b8d69d888ec92579c5d66f69a518231d0e3a77d91301faa6da4f49726350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 64.131.135.74 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Like inviting Stephen Colbert to the Washington Press Club dinner! >This might be our Patti or it might be the other one. > >If it's our Patti how about if she read the Declaration of Independence >too? > >- - Mitch From babel-list-owner Sat May 27 10:56:34 2006 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4RHuYu3013053 for ; Sat, 27 May 2006 10:56:34 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id k4RHuYqq013052 for babel-list-obscured; Sat, 27 May 2006 10:56:34 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from qb-out-0506.google.com (qb-out-0506.google.com [72.14.204.235]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id k4RHuW9J013046 for ; Sat, 27 May 2006 10:56:33 -0700 Received: by qb-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id d11so42782qbd for ; Sat, 27 May 2006 10:56:33 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h