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RE: 10 years of comeback boots.
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- Subject: RE: 10 years of comeback boots.
- From: "J" <jlregister>
- Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 02:58:26 -0800
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Personally, for mid-70s Patti I'd have to pick "Teenage Perversity and Ships
in the Night."
Yes, its edited down to fit on vinyl, etc., but it's a really fine example
of what her 1976 shows were like.
J
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> It's a recurring question on listservs -- "If you had to
> pick five (or ten, or whatever) exemplary bootlegs by our
> favorite artist, what would you pick?" It's usually a
> fairly fleeting topic, because people have a pretty firm
> idea of the most near and dear to them personally, and
> even a clear idea of what they'd burn for a "newbie".
>
> I had the opportunity to answer this for real for someone
> with a new iPod who wanted some live Patti. I was surprised
> by the experience, and discovered a few things in the
> process.
>
> Among the discoveries/revelations (to me, at least)...
>
> * A lot of the commonly available 70s stuff is just not
> ready for prime time.
>
> The stuff is either a woefully incomplete set, or too
> many generationss down for someone who isn't a hardcore
> completist, or edited to fit on a vinyl LP, or what
> have you. With the disclaimer that the 70s are woefully
> underrepresented in my personal collection, I had
> a really tough time picking stuff out from that era.
>
> I may yet slip in "Never talked to Bob Dylan",
> which is really the only "Horses" era boot I can
> think of in reasonable sound which has not been
> so edited so as to be devoid of impact. But
> so far? I just supplied the latest umpteenth
> remaster of the Tower '79 show. The Patti of
> 1979 is not the Patti of 1976, however. So my
> effort still lacks. In my searching, I saw that
> there is a dead torrent up at dime of a complete
> Bottom Line '75 show. That would be sweet, but
> until then...
>
>
> * By contrast, it was a tough job whittling down
> stuff from 1997 to 2001 to only one or two shows.
> I can't get enough of those days. In the end, I
> discovered over the weekend a lone Dime seeder
> seeding a 1999 show from Italy I hadn't heard of
> before. It had great, fresh energy, so I decided
> to not sweat the small stuff (a little too much
> crowd noise, and the last song is truncated, and
> I actually didn't listen all the way through) in favor
> of supplying something which is really attractive
> as a whole package. Made the chore seem less of
> a chore. (And if that seed is reading, know
> that your generosity is much appreciated.)
>
>
> * Tom Verlaine.
>
> Having Tom on a show makes a big big difference,
> IMHO. I wanted to include a complete (or near
> complete), decent-sounding 1996 show not only
> because of TV, but also because of the great, airy
> atmosphere a lot of those shows had. In this,
> my choice was easily made for me, because pretty
> much all I had that was "fit for company" was
> the boot "Barefoot Poetess" (Hamburg 1996, made
> from an FM b'cast).
>
> The source I burned from was one I personally
> speed-corrected for my own use, as "BP" suffers
> a long, slow, gradual speed change, culminating
> in being off by almost 5% (IIRC).
>
> I gave "my" version some extra time for
> listening, because I feared that the "correcting"
> I did in 1997 or thereabouts would be an
> embarrassment to hear today, but it held up
> very nicely. Something else that held up very
> nicely? The 4X Imation CD-Rs I burned my work
> on to - at 2X - on an external HP USB (1.1)
> burner. No errors on those babies, and I'm
> guessing they are eight or nine years old
> now. (Keep 'em dark! Keep 'em clean!)
>
>
> * Not all homegrown music maestros are so successful.
>
> It seems that a lossy-source 2001 Patti show got
> torrented on Dime in the last year unbeknownst to
> anybody. (Well, maybe someone DID eventually mention
> it in the torrent's comments section, but I couldn't
> find this torrent still in the datrabase). It was
> the last Village Underground show from June of 2001.
>
> The very first handclaps on the very first track
> before she even speaks gave it away. They had that
> "tunnel" artifact you get on every damn audience
> recording that's been badly compressed and has
> handclaps in close proximity to the taper. Ick!
> I hate that sound.
>
> Turns out - this torrent, at some point, had been
> the same exact source as was used for the show in
> the six-disc "box set" from that engagement:
> "Bitch can Wail". Obviously, I went for the
> uncompressed one (before compressing it, I know,
> I know...). I paid cash for BCW on eBay a long
> time ago, and don't regret it at all.