From babel-list-owner Sun Sep 2 10:23:26 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l82HNQMp028910 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 10:23:26 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id l82HNPAe028905 for babel-list-obscured; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 10:23:25 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.183]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l82HNOqs028896 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 10:23:24 -0700 Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id m28so1692299wag for ; Sun, 02 Sep 2007 10:24:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Ol0xsu9Ny8m87DoLJU+ybO5m6znq1duHc3Vt6vFgK+3EpSmfzkqnPAzeYgQKSYvSAa2ZF13nMVJ8iskPMRzeOdISr7Mo0p/m795sIu9otTRQQt4YLrwpnIcleb+4oZ46x8ogqVk8+4qaT0mMAud8zyewWieHucWH4RQo9Xbeuis= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=d7PIM87zL+AJA+VKkoffjHAByHgrg6dpK3ebZHcvw9jCeC1ujJEGtewbs+lGROcIYJKxktEvLNrze2pIZnv4gIkaGIMfTTEM2z5B24sunHsCkbWufPQpcNT7tMjWJHKht7I2A28FB0NlB4kQE9eEmkCxCTIKWpPumQmD/+S7NP8= Received: by 10.114.184.7 with SMTP id h7mr2477937waf.1188753859182; Sun, 02 Sep 2007 10:24:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.125.17 with HTTP; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 10:24:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6f10fa9d0709021024t21143991se886234d45c9c624> Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 10:24:19 -0700 From: "Dennis Moore" To: Babel-list Subject: Patti Smith Under Review DVD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by penguin.postmodern.com id l82HNOqs028898 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ A Closer Look at Patti Smith This Rocktober http://www.antimusic.com/news/07/aug/1609.shtml 08/16/07 . (PR) The Patti Smith Under Review DVD is set to hit stores on October 30th. With rare and previously unseen performance footage, rare film, interviews with Patti Smith and with those who know her best, location shoots and lengthy contributions from friends, colleagues and esteemed experts, this program closely examines the astonishing music she has been making through three decades. It also includes interviews with her first publisher and biographer, Victor Bockris; her ex-songwriting partner, Blue Oyster Cult's Albert Bouchard; engineer on Horses, Frank D'Augusta; producer of Radio Ethiopia, Jack Douglas; engineer on the Easter sessions, Shelly Yakus; author of Horses and the Remaking of Rock n' Roll, Mark Paytress, English music journalist and author, Jon Savage; Rolling Stone magazine's ex- editor, Anthony De Curtis; New York's Village Voice music editor, Robert Christgau; Patti Smith biographer, Nick Johnstone and more. It features live and studio performances of Patti Smith classics such as: Gloria, Easter, Because The Night, Dancing Barefoot, Frederick, Ask The Angela and many, many more. The target of more sexist clichi [largely emanating from those who should know better] than just about any other woman in rock, Patti Smith is not 'the female Bob Dylan', 'the first lady of Punk' or 'the most dynamic female artist of all time'; she is simply a unique performer, stunning songwriter and superb vocalist who has stayed at the cutting edge of contemporary music for more than 30 years. Bonus Materials: Interactive Gaming Feature 'The Hardest Patti Smith Quiz In The World Ever' - 'Horses For Courses'  The Making of A Landmark Album - Full Contributor Biographies - Beyond DVD section (I have yet to find out who did this or much other production information.) From babel-list-owner Sun Sep 2 18:30:04 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l831U2nX017142 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 18:30:03 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id l831U2Ph017141 for babel-list-obscured; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 18:30:02 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from web37302.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web37302.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.90.245]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with SMTP id l831U03q017135 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 18:30:00 -0700 Received: (qmail 23183 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Sep 2007 01:34:51 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=pwVWhN3KxeXZ4a7w5DOG/FLwwhlVks6BNB+qHFozPdXfwPbDyzqyhLUZFd6U8W4vDUg935h4wTWt7V2Zl6D+EuygK1G+c7Yn0mQ5W+31cRYsRfhO4BZfHwN7KtKjTModKNq8/jIQnNo1YFYtm2pMiFHaEN8J6id7J5NaHUxrQv4=; X-YMail-OSG: EQI06igVM1mRwIjvgQZo5BlVNITnqNqAYTsavgMhFRZVrMcHGPawFyM5RSaOQN6OdstTXFT2N09GL0_7ep1TTRWe.9XwRnnpfn8HHDWc0OgoTY6puWUr02s0LILY8g-- Received: from [71.135.62.195] by web37302.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 02 Sep 2007 18:34:51 PDT Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 18:34:51 -0700 (PDT) From: skywalker Subject: Patti 21 October 2006 SBD/AUD matrix is on Dime To: babel-list, eternalcafe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <781725.22444.qm> Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Patti's 21 October 2006 show is at http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=160867 It a SBD/AUD Matrix mix by the unsurpassed AJ. Great sound quality, I rate it "A+", nothing sounds better than this! mp3 sample http://www.dimeadozen.org/attachments/160867/2006449/ps2006-10-21Gimme-Shelter.mp3 I'd really appreciate it if someone would please weed it here for the Dimeless. coyote ____________________________________________________________________________________ Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ From babel-list-owner Sun Sep 2 21:43:39 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l834hcW9024898 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 21:43:38 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id l834hcAs024897 for babel-list-obscured; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 21:43:38 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from mail3.panix.com (mail3.panix.com [166.84.1.74]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l834havv024891 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 21:43:37 -0700 Received: from panix2.panix.com (panix2.panix.com [166.84.1.2]) by mail3.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DED6213A871 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 00:43:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from spamtony) by panix2.panix.com (8.11.6p3/8.8.8/PanixN1.1) id l834hf113842 for babel-list; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 00:43:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200709030443.l834hf113842> Subject: Beacon hot-ticket drop all weekend. To: babel-list Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 00:43:41 -0400 (EDT) From: "weapons of mass destruction-related program activities" Reply-To: spamtony (Anthony J. Rzepela) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5+IMAP PL8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Prime seats for the 09/14 Beacon show became suddenly available this weekend, such as 10th row Orch, and some are still available at Ticketmaster.com now, such as row A of the Loge. From babel-list-owner Sun Sep 2 22:26:20 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l835QK2V026528 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 22:26:20 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id l835QKnQ026527 for babel-list-obscured; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 22:26:20 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.67]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l835QIEH026517 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 22:26:19 -0700 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=CoB3HXCxSIcKkWWiTaHenNKItkWGDEPShRBHs9GfqXF+qWqnXX87otKkMlOnod+1; h=Received:Message-ID:X-Priority:Reply-To:X-Mailer:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [68.164.55.170] (helo=earthlink.net) by elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1IS4SH-0007Nc-Fm for babel-list; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 01:26:33 -0400 Message-ID: <380-2200791352312437> Reply-To: ravensdawn X-Mailer: EarthLink MailBox 2005.2.108.0 (Windows) From: "Paul Perner" To: "babel-list" Subject: me dumb Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 22:23:12 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-ELNK-Trace: 4edfec6b6b5efd62da0aaa6235189d65239a348a220c26091fa8918743982301432c64e6dda07da6a2d4e88014a4647c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 68.164.55.170 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ I called my ISP and all I get is a thick Hindi accent telling me, "I am not trained to answer question about media players. 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Paul (almost got my left foot in the TwentyFirst Century) From babel-list-owner Mon Sep 3 06:44:07 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l83Di7WL022537 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 06:44:07 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id l83Di7c7022536 for babel-list-obscured; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 06:44:07 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.69]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l83Di4Ej022510 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 06:44:05 -0700 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=PiqbiPuMFStGP71nk6/zZT96OldPton319SW8uioo6SdJGq9g7FOsFUxrEf5TJ2W; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [209.86.224.45] (helo=elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net) by elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1ISCDh-0005aR-Vf for babel-list; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 09:44:02 -0400 Received: from 208.13.90.163 by webmail.pas.earthlink.net with HTTP; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 09:44:00 -0400 Message-ID: <4859986.1188827040909.JavaMail.root> Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 08:44:00 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: Keith Reply-To: Keith To: babel-digest Subject: The Patti Smith Under Review DVD Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: 714f392c8724831074bf435c0eb9d4785332c537dfa4e54afbc9bcec695252f90d0d044b583c3af6350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.45 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ So I went to amazon.com to see if the Patti Smith Under Review dvd can be ordered. It says it's not available for purchase but has the expected release date of December 31, 1969! hahahaha I haven't seen anything quite that messed up post Y2K. Keith From babel-list-owner Mon Sep 3 08:21:43 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l83FLh6O029987 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 08:21:43 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id l83FLhoE029986 for babel-list-obscured; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 08:21:43 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.228]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l83FLgAp029978 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 08:21:42 -0700 Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 71so648027wri for ; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 08:21:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=HzJWIhO7uaEXBVjyPFi4nT4RfppxCwTzM9PKy224jGyqB1p+8HY/E9MSxzL/cRvBVtnFyJc0N6F01w95I9lWOjVZnJcvg1Z3k6xSz7/Wiuael0y/9ogzjsZeR9Ma0G3PDoSrswqYk0Y7cRoYxVlGAbe5DHq0u7VV+mOVBLeKXx8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Wl6SUj2wqHkI8EQmQtpnY67v89M6uQfa7fnK6BXG8qN/Z9V3W5DmBJx6C3SgLbR6tqHd57fFFxcmt57+pRO175IcYtVCafJFoxdbLM/MjwfU+B+pIdXyx+LfGb1yQERDlh3CCMxeG44HqWZs7GsXtZM0V4/GyJl7mxnaJme6G4o= Received: by 10.115.90.1 with SMTP id s1mr3179160wal.1188832902975; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 08:21:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.125.17 with HTTP; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 08:21:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6f10fa9d0709030821l74ac48f1s26c44d8b15b11a25> Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 08:21:37 -0700 From: "Dennis Moore" To: Babel-list Subject: Re: The Patti Smith Under Review DVD In-Reply-To: <4859986.1188827040909.JavaMail.root> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <4859986.1188827040909.JavaMail.root> Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ preorder can be made here: http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=7500914&style=movie&cart=591292250&BAB=M From babel-list-owner Tue Sep 4 16:02:11 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l84N2BFZ026987 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 16:02:11 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id l84N2BTP026986 for babel-list-obscured; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 16:02:11 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l84N284l026981 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 16:02:10 -0700 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b2so1576029nfb for ; Tue, 04 Sep 2007 16:02:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=oSje+6W3170S2jX3OJtf6LdYQpZglGgMGdTIcdJV7mm0M65WnLZqrvRRJrN9fYW+EKJqV9sPQIAAsa5q3zOC5g8DnUvkmH51Ypc1sbsRLfAKWn8GdSZRCJfbPo4XYzWfs8zDuwiiNUVcQNnhbbMjpW8IEPxIQYlJd4wpVMwVqnE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=lv3EJPw28u+wbnAxXyLx0sz8o/TyQ9zsOxe/M8plftUVEfmTQsRqq+I0v9qOfpvaTE/tyWN9QOsnPQGQpx+YYmOLQvDrxwZyv5zS/Nj2VoZfprEOQeQOohalm3F6w7gpDkNMhRIHRVUl1oBYMk0skfrPgw2u9ol1u4maetXPR7E= Received: by 10.78.204.1 with SMTP id b1mr4609310hug.1188946928642; Tue, 04 Sep 2007 16:02:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.239.7 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 16:02:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 19:02:08 -0400 From: "Hilary Hodgson" To: babel-list Subject: SHOW TONIGHT POSTPONED!!!!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ i was just getting ready for the show tonight and checked to find out the show time and found this on the music hall website: Patti Smith And Her Band *POSTPONED* New Date TBA. Check Back Soon. Tuesday, September 4th i called the mercury lounge box office and said that the hall was not opening tonight and the show is postponed. -- hilary http://www.myspace.com/rknmama From babel-list-owner Tue Sep 4 16:46:32 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l84NkW7D029263 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 16:46:32 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id l84NkW5f029262 for babel-list-obscured; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 16:46:32 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.184]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l84NkTX1029256 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 16:46:31 -0700 Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id 18so1953420fkq for ; Tue, 04 Sep 2007 16:46:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=kZ9B76YhETM9Lp7f/EAeCW04GDBb586FdMWF8Q8DHQvSwqJ/XuWhxclFKfEoiuNCVi3mKxm9rtdeHBBdmHyqhJr4hCKcG491t8r61tIKeV6MOrMmjssnzVyASsc85oOaSs7ryvDh2vwkAwwVfDp8F93f8QboWrHyzKPjbF/AIt4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=kZeAAiLgfjup85ah7jV20aOhbk9waMlmMmYcDDGmIIXpZm00mypRR88tyZ1gfFX43fQSYgwRwkvvnYj0VwEWd3eLCQdueDEJONZWMiu05Unt+b3DAsQHGt+GT6qI2kBM1L6+XpOJqu1WU7KY3ZRbQjIF9QvWRf9+UjdsMGETzmo= Received: by 10.82.119.17 with SMTP id r17mr9316218buc.1188949587749; Tue, 04 Sep 2007 16:46:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.239.7 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 16:46:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 19:46:27 -0400 From: "Hilary Hodgson" To: babel-list Subject: Re: SHOW TONIGHT POSTPONED!!!!! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ from patti's myspace bulliten sent at 6:05: "POSTPONED: Patti Smith Tonight Sorry for the late notice - but the Patti Smith show tonight (9/4) at the Music Hall of Williamsburg has been POSTPONED until Thursday Sept. 6th. Please visit http://www.williamsburgmusichall.com/ for updated information" hilary http://www.myspace.com/rknmama From babel-list-owner Wed Sep 5 05:23:45 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l85CNiXC007175 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 05:23:45 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id l85CNihq007174 for babel-list-obscured; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 05:23:44 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.176]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l85CNfMO007167 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 05:23:42 -0700 Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id m28so2732472wag for ; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 05:23:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=px060VHxj974oLANCNi1jKhNytxNXluaqoR+V7sure7Fr2x0EXE/PG6LGmaEmtdQlBwwschOR1n1GF8IyLo5bi5BXwMN5IraaRp9mtS9uwrpipOzLq6TeJmuseFbgw2byWQ9DMXcG3AX7HR52d6RPRAZ8XUfFksOelC+g1FUvWQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=OU7sJvfJq2aPdkGx+qHkCDuExGpqhpZiQWgIfNGOg/wUmswihfsqpze2CCwP82CLi43XGVzHtOMI8+1JRuC3bW154urGdozuo9BzCadvODNBCYvnesHBt2gbdWeAXRJvWNUJJfQuAyMYZ9fJyz7YwtbjV/bsvKoP7CfCETJlpZQ= Received: by 10.114.202.15 with SMTP id z15mr35024waf.1188995023245; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 05:23:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.125.17 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 05:23:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6f10fa9d0709050523p5d0ff77dkca02ad60326ea6c2> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 05:23:43 -0700 From: "Dennis Moore" To: eternalcafe, Babel-list Subject: Re: [eternalcafe] Long night for everyone In-Reply-To: <0c2b94bc2b15a380336dd7d86b201867> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <466438.53510.qm> <0c2b94bc2b15a380336dd7d86b201867> Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ see: http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2007/09/music_hall_open.html On 9/5/07, marc_seal wrote: > > it's up on the venue's website for tomorrow: > > http://www.musichallofwilliamsburg.com/calendar/show/766/ > > what happened? From babel-list-owner Tue Sep 11 17:09:51 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8C09pco027175 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2007 17:09:51 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id l8C09p0f027174 for babel-list-obscured; Tue, 11 Sep 2007 17:09:51 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from imo-d22.mx.aol.com (imo-d22.mx.aol.com [205.188.144.208]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8C09nGN027164 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2007 17:09:50 -0700 Received: from Poemsl1 by imo-d22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.2.) id r.c2c.1aa2cf19 (30739); Tue, 11 Sep 2007 20:09:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Poemsl1 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 20:09:16 EDT Subject: A Remembrance: 9-11 World Trade Center Memorial - Jeff Buckley/Hallelujah NPC To: eternalcafe, babel-list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 165 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ _http://tinyurl.http://tin_ (http://tinyurl.com/2llfjg) Peace and Love- Seena ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From babel-list-owner Wed Sep 12 07:16:53 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8CEGrxt018236 for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2007 07:16:53 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id l8CEGrQH018235 for babel-list-obscured; Wed, 12 Sep 2007 07:16:53 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from mail1.panix.com (mail1.panix.com [166.84.1.72]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8CEGp7q018228 for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2007 07:16:52 -0700 Received: from panix2.panix.com (panix2.panix.com [166.84.1.2]) by mail1.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B347629423 for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2007 10:16:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from spamtony) by panix2.panix.com (8.11.6p3/8.8.8/PanixN1.1) id l8CEGtC07482 for babel-list; Wed, 12 Sep 2007 10:16:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200709121416.l8CEGtC07482> Subject: So.. did the 6th happen? To: babel-list Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 10:16:55 -0400 (EDT) From: "weapons of mass destruction-related program activities" Reply-To: spamtony (Anthony J. Rzepela) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5+IMAP PL8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Did the postponed Brooklyn show ever come to fruition? From babel-list-owner Thu Sep 13 14:16:28 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8DLGSWY014085 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 14:16:28 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id l8DLGSvZ014084 for babel-list-obscured; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 14:16:28 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from mail2.panix.com (mail2.panix.com [166.84.1.73]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8DLGQ2A014076 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 14:16:27 -0700 Received: from panix3.panix.com (panix3.panix.com [166.84.1.3]) by mail2.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0867A34817 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 17:16:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from spamtony) by panix3.panix.com (8.11.6p3/8.8.8/PanixN1.1) id l8DLGTP06865 for babel-list; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 17:16:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200709132116.l8DLGTP06865> Subject: Beacon Loge drop - row A wide open. To: babel-list Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 17:16:28 -0400 (EDT) From: "weapons of mass destruction-related program activities" Reply-To: spamtony (Anthony J. Rzepela) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5+IMAP PL8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Not a lot left in the orchestra, but you can get multiple contiguous seats in the first row of the Loge, dead center, at the Beacon RIGHT NOW for tomorrow's show at ticketmaster.com From babel-list-owner Thu Sep 13 14:20:24 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8DLKO9d014379 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 14:20:24 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id l8DLKODB014378 for babel-list-obscured; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 14:20:24 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from mail2.panix.com (mail2.panix.com [166.84.1.73]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8DLKMRp014371 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 14:20:23 -0700 Received: from panix3.panix.com (panix3.panix.com [166.84.1.3]) by mail2.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BF4834810 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 17:20:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from spamtony) by panix3.panix.com (8.11.6p3/8.8.8/PanixN1.1) id l8DLKQ605091 for babel-list; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 17:20:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200709132120.l8DLKQ605091> Subject: Center Orchestra dropping for Beacon. To: babel-list Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 17:20:26 -0400 (EDT) From: "weapons of mass destruction-related program activities" Reply-To: spamtony (Anthony J. Rzepela) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5+IMAP PL8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Multiples available now for Beacon in Center Orchestra, row J (13 rows from stage, center section). From babel-list-owner Thu Sep 13 14:31:40 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8DLVeeI014839 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 14:31:40 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id l8DLVe5d014835 for babel-list-obscured; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 14:31:40 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from mail2.panix.com (mail2.panix.com [166.84.1.73]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8DLVcSA014827 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 14:31:39 -0700 Received: from panix3.panix.com (panix3.panix.com [166.84.1.3]) by mail2.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28A9134805 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 17:31:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from spamtony) by panix3.panix.com (8.11.6p3/8.8.8/PanixN1.1) id l8DLVd416193 for babel-list; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 17:31:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200709132131.l8DLVd416193> Subject: Party of 8, 11th row? To: babel-list Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 17:31:39 -0400 (EDT) From: "weapons of mass destruction-related program activities" Reply-To: spamtony (Anthony J. Rzepela) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5+IMAP PL8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ You can now seat a group of 8 together in the 11th row (row G), Left-Center section, on the Center-Left Aisle. Row party at the Beacon! From babel-list-owner Fri Sep 14 09:04:05 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8EG45ds018449 for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2007 09:04:05 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id l8EG45p9018448 for babel-list-obscured; Fri, 14 Sep 2007 09:04:05 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.172]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8EG43MJ018441 for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2007 09:04:04 -0700 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 23so518386ugr for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2007 09:04:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=k1f8foNdoLNWHuq8Et+p++PCPjUzuq5toBbE+8/GQaU=; b=mTVdyVqMHSkBEgU5NGvh6jhY3oI7t3eaZ/JiMkiP/chEaExitWwamhB2dOv+7HVBc+8G9saaszrJoFf/dTlJkjXgp1D9JgVran41FD6wiNVC80n/j2Oudts2gCD64ezwGszzp1aVJVc6ZWQun2ZgM54g+CVIXxCx7Xd0tvN96ho= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=qKKGKSxHCzpr8swPNMqAFsVBgpBKdiX4oR1dKbM7A2z2yubgxadf4I78HHKiYbiBgK4XOYLvSRxy3X6xZBOjDxECOhmEm6p3KEqELyA7esjq64XThRJZKgU0cSvKQeyC5vpcXVQ9dywFB5zWcmkhx/qjhnLal/EQwFuB7fWrhQQ= Received: by 10.78.180.18 with SMTP id c18mr1167125huf.1189785842944; Fri, 14 Sep 2007 09:04:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.182.6 with HTTP; Fri, 14 Sep 2007 09:04:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6f10fa9d0709140904p32972025r7e580b0b0200f319> Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 09:04:02 -0700 From: "Dennis Moore" To: Babel-list Subject: Memento Mori MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ http://www.pattismith.net/wegottofly.html FRED SONIC SMITH Musician September 14, 1948 - November 4, 1994 Friday, September 14, 2007 is the anniversary of the birth of Fred Sonic Smith. We will dedicate our performance at the Beacon Theater to him. We hope that everyone will give him a good thought and pause for a moment to send a smile and salute. Listen to Frederick and Gone Again. (I'll be listening to Dream Of Life today for sure.) From babel-list-owner Fri Sep 14 09:38:11 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8EGc9fT020290 for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2007 09:38:11 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id l8EGc9Fb020288 for babel-list-obscured; Fri, 14 Sep 2007 09:38:09 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.172]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8EGc6tW020283 for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2007 09:38:07 -0700 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 23so523931ugr for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2007 09:38:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=xzaz9sihEeb6GftXt/0UoBRamNknR6Dp0S4OxvEf6gw=; b=fPb0olh5+DxnxkrL6pPmryTgUB69cWfMny4qhhzKyIHoGVW2gaPd35BMFkaQpF0mNrxfU0GjOOUUjClTvvbVZp3g5VORPAhU94M455Ndp2lRxY51HAfMCOqh3jtsmaXQxhqTH7MTQnHIab+XB95tJmCJzL//euqqrgR0LdHeeMM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=fvu2HKHHhsZgUCwe/vrI3AOZqBMFQVdii5R5xsQtvbamHjJpRLSHJtVpb+tvDAsqGvjJaYebEMqeZyHe72b7bseBIbe89y7qiU4Pr5UQhEZrHdOLBlxCvDaYYwiHf2VsaXoTx+wJpudiw4EridhOhZjo/kEG/Q2h1zpPlEVgCm8= Received: by 10.78.193.5 with SMTP id q5mr1181219huf.1189787888151; Fri, 14 Sep 2007 09:38:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.182.6 with HTTP; Fri, 14 Sep 2007 09:38:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6f10fa9d0709140938w3d29c136u81194005779b501c> Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 09:38:08 -0700 From: "Dennis Moore" To: Babel-list Subject: [npc] LIVE Austin City Limits Music Festival webcast September 14-16 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ http://www.attblueroom.com/music/events/acl.php Watch the LIVE webcast from the Austin City Limits Music Festival September 14-16th. With 8 stages and 130 bands there is no better way to see the show. So mark your calendars, blue room is giving you an exclusive front row seat without having to leave your computer. This year's Austin City Limits Music Festival line-up includes: Bob Dylan & His Band, The White Stripes, The Killers, Wilco, Arcade Fire, Muse, My Morning Jacket, Queens of the Stone Age, Bloc Party, Arctic Monkeys and many more! For more info visit www.aclfest.com. http://www.aclfest.com/lineup.aspx http://www.austincitylimits.com/schedule/day1.htm From babel-list-owner Sat Sep 15 07:09:23 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8FE9N6O004638 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2007 07:09:23 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id l8FE9Noh004637 for babel-list-obscured; Sat, 15 Sep 2007 07:09:23 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from mail2.panix.com (mail2.panix.com [166.84.1.73]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8FE9Lq8004630 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2007 07:09:22 -0700 Received: from panix1.panix.com (panix1.panix.com [166.84.1.1]) by mail2.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A9073480C for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2007 10:09:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from spamtony) by panix1.panix.com (8.11.6p3/8.8.8/PanixN1.1) id l8FE9Ze09285 for babel-list; Sat, 15 Sep 2007 10:09:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200709151409.l8FE9Ze09285> Subject: Beacon 09/14 To: babel-list Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 10:09:35 -0400 (EDT) From: "weapons of mass destruction-related program activities" Reply-To: spamtony (Anthony J. Rzepela) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5+IMAP PL8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Awesome show last night. I wasn't expecting a full-blown tribute to Fred "Sonic" Smith, but just another 12-tour performance. Anyway, That's what it was. Lots of special guests coming and going (Luis Resto, Flea, Rich Robinson, Zeke (Shein?), Jack (Petuzelli?), PS' daughter Jesse. Show opened with two low-key rarities: "Going Under", which PS said was written in anticipation of Jesse's birth; and "My Madrigal". These featured Flea and Luis. Then a short (she pledged seven minute) intermission, before the show proper. Lots of funny and sweet stories about Fred, most of which the hardcores have probably heard already. She also hinted that the stories would be told through the songs, which they were. (2nd Penultimate performance: "My Generation" (!), which was the first song Fred joined Patti (and band) on, in March of 1976.) Final number was "Farewll Real", with Jesse on ukelele. Really sweet interplay as PS struggled with the strumming. Anyway, lots more later as I'm on a public terminal in NYC and folks are waiting. Yikes.... From babel-list-owner Sat Sep 15 15:43:05 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8FMh4XC003758 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2007 15:43:05 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id l8FMh4Cm003757 for babel-list-obscured; Sat, 15 Sep 2007 15:43:04 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from mail2.panix.com (mail2.panix.com [166.84.1.73]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8FMh2c5003749 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2007 15:43:02 -0700 Received: from panix3.panix.com (panix3.panix.com [166.84.1.3]) by mail2.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FCA534810 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2007 18:43:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from spamtony) by panix3.panix.com (8.11.6p3/8.8.8/PanixN1.1) id l8FMhJs11041 for babel-list; Sat, 15 Sep 2007 18:43:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200709152243.l8FMhJs11041> Subject: Beacon 09/14 (part deux) To: babel-list Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 18:43:19 -0400 (EDT) From: "weapons of mass destruction-related program activities" Reply-To: spamtony (Anthony J. Rzepela) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5+IMAP PL8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ So, what's the deal? No one posts reviews here anymore? (Don't make me go over to the cunty Yahoo group...) So anyway, yeah.... I apparently missed 100% of the promotion and hype indicating that the Beacon would be anything but another "12" show. So it took me some time to readjust all my radars. The goal of the evening was apparently to present music and reminiscence in tribute to Fred Smith with an all-star lineup of accomplished musicians who would keep the proceedings a step or two above bar-band, which they most certainly did. Unfortunately, big parts of the evening lacked a certain spark. Not for lack of fire or effort or skill. At times, Patti seemed short-tempered with some unspecified gremlins (she also seemed to be taking them out on poor Tony Shanahan, but then, I was watching from some distance) and/or out of breath. And I'd love to have a Luis Resto permanently installed in my parlor, playing piano for me. Ooh! (Perhaps part of the problem was proper sound presentation. I started my evening in 10th-row Orch (right-Center, only the 4th seat off the aisle), where I thought the sound left something to be desired, and I eventually moved up to front row Loge, where the sound was pristine, forceful and in your face (fortunately I moved up there in time for "Cash", my favorite song off "trampin'") and with that move, Jay Dee and Patti emerged from the murk, with Luis Resto restored to his proper place. The Beacon really does eat sound for breakfast. But then, perhaps part of the problem was also room vibe. Lots of weird, angry people down in front: folks were marching up aisles and demanding others sit. Lots of flashlights shining in my face, over and over. Lots of folks with apparent ADD afflictions getting up and down and going back and forth over and over. (I felt like channeling Colbert: "Pick a side! We're at war!") When a janitor came up the aisle with a mop to the front row - twice - that's when I decided to try my luck upstairs in one of the "cheap seats" I bought.) During the encore she made a couple of uncharacteristically large gestures - perhaps finally finding the size of the room? - once windmilling to get her guitar, and once to get Jay Dee to take "Pissin in a River" over the top - which he did, after which Patti followed suit herself - OH!! Absolute killer moment, and highlight of the evening for me. Manipulative? Maybe. Do I care? NO!!! Perhaps tragically telling, she confessed near the end of the show to finding that the evening seemed to go by too quickly - and it felt exactly that way to me, too. For all the flaws and miscalculations, the evening did not drag. As much as it's probably true that I should have witnessed the show with eyes and ears less accustomed than they are to "We Three", BTN, and "Frederick", it's also true that Patti should have had an opportunity to feel the room and relax and have a do-over with the umpteen-zillion years of musical experience sitting on stage behind her that she had at her disposal. But unfortunately, life (and showbiz) does not work that way. That's where the magic and tragedy both come from, I suppose. Anyway, final verdict: Did I feel lucky to be there and in the universe as it was happening? Absolutely. Do I feel it could have been more than it was? Yeah. S.O.S (Some other stuff): * I liked that Patti fessed up to hating Paul Simon's "Graceland" album, and skipping "Within You Without You" when playing the Sgt. Pepper album. Given her fondness for Nirvana, I think we're pretty sympatico musically. :) * Luis only had the benefit of a "real" piano for the first part of the set - the two songs up front. He almost knocked over the electric job Tony usually plays. * Can anyone conform that the "Jack" who played banjo and also guitar last night was Jack Petruzelli (sp?) of Fab Faux and Rufus Wainwright fame? I saw Rufus this Summer in what turned out to be one of Jack Petruzelli's last shows with him. I'm not any good with setlists, but here's a rough approximation of the evening. I will not defend any of these mental recollections to the death. Going Under My Madrigal (both with Flea and Luis Resto, Patti in black slacks, white shirt and tie) [seven-minute pause. Lights stay down] Gone Again [out of order, now] Are You Experienced? (w Flea on trumpet) Dancing Barefoot [back in order] Ghost Dance (w Rich Robinson) Boy in the Bubble (w Rich Robinson on dulcimer) [Tony moves upstairs. Hi! Yes, I'm sitting here. Fuck you.] Cash [out of order, again] Within You Without You We Three Southern Cross BTN Frederick Smells Like Teen Spirit (w Jack on banjo, Flea on trumpet, and a cast of thousands) PHTP (with entire guest lineup, incl. "Zeke") [encore] Pissin in a River My Generation (w Flea and Tony both on bass) Bableogue/RnRN [pause, basking] Farewell Real (w Jesse Smith on a ukelele presented by Jackson) [Jackson re-emerges for family photo-op. It was sweet. So sue me.] From babel-list-owner Sun Sep 16 09:45:52 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8GGjqAp027090 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2007 09:45:52 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id l8GGjq5k027089 for babel-list-obscured; Sun, 16 Sep 2007 09:45:52 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com (imo-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.35]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8GGjoBN027075 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2007 09:45:51 -0700 Received: from Krankiekat by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.2.) id m.c52.200857ce (29678) for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2007 12:46:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Krankiekat Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 12:46:01 EDT Subject: Fred Sonic Smith- The Beacon Show To: babel-list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Can somebody anybody who might be close to Patti's inner circle explain why ( and I have been seeing Patti since the early 70's and My Fathers Place and CBGB's ) Patti won't cover an MC5 song???? Especially for Fred's birthday tribute. The MC5 are one of my top all time favorite bands and I've also seen them several times. Their 3 official released records Kick Out the Jams, Back in the USA, and High Times have quite a few great songs on them some written by Fred, and some would fit right in to Patti and her bands mode...scrap Pushing too Hard and Let Lenny (if Patti won't sing an MC5 song) rip through a power medley of loud MC5 songs that all capture the real meaning of Rock&Roll and Revolution I wanna hear some revolution out there brothers, You must choose,...It takes 5 seconds, 5 seconds to decide, 5 seconds to decide whether you are gonna be part of the problem or part of the solution...Rob Tyner one of the great rock & roll frontmen...Patti may be more of a peanut butter person( as she said Friday night) but the Jams need some kicking out every now and then...Baby Won't Ya? FranK a human being lawn mower but you can Call me Animal ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From babel-list-owner Sun Sep 16 14:37:28 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8GLbRCn008309 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2007 14:37:28 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id l8GLbRME008308 for babel-list-obscured; Sun, 16 Sep 2007 14:37:27 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from imo-m23.mx.aol.com (imo-m23.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.4]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8GLbOg9008295 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2007 14:37:25 -0700 Received: from Poemsl1 by imo-m23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.2.) id m.cd1.19677678 (65098); Sun, 16 Sep 2007 17:37:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Poemsl1 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 17:37:15 EDT Subject: Comparison of PS to documentarian Ken Burns (of all people?) To: babel-list, eternalcafe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 165 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ "(Ken Burns)..... seems almost alarmingly boyish and a bit androgynous. Those qualities give him an innocent, nearly otherworldly aspect: the Eagle Scout as shaman, the kid next door as Patti Smith. Don't laugh at the Smith comparison. The documentarian and the rock star share a similar missionary fervor as well as a narrow build. Burns conveys a sense of lightly leashed intensity. It's the intensity that enables him to keep undertaking these vast filmmaking campaigns, island-hopping his way through the American past." _http://www.boston.com/ae/tv/articles/2007/09/16/fighting_the_good_fight/_ (http://www.boston.com/ae/tv/articles/2007/09/16/fighting_the_good_fight/) The quote re: Patti is on the second page of the article. It's interesting how she is becoming an integral part of mainstream American life and a cultural touchstone. xxo- Seena ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From babel-list-owner Sun Sep 16 21:04:12 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8H44Cvx026254 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2007 21:04:12 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id l8H44CDr026253 for babel-list-obscured; Sun, 16 Sep 2007 21:04:12 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.186]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8H44A0x026246 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2007 21:04:11 -0700 Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k20so1341210rvb for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2007 21:04:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=2LAdjCch2fyUrkJ9qljDI+d6TSzmZr470JEw9vB4hJ4=; b=nGAyIK2B5+Ioa7geNNPRn7C/j6R/fKSOhMlEYQwieuALWxBDh0Uh1uiO6fM+lt7iYNxupZHhXuYLBSd6R/0uy+oSDrWRGG4MepL23YHSH/jE4mMc6fKSWUWqUrbVgb+XT58MATAqT3pYWZKvLvo34a0DObs/qeVzsr7W+EVlJow= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=N0/lzGssFwagbKCkQhggOiY/YxzV9gUOznnCyycm0VqYGW+rSt5To7ZozZOUmIr+XnRcn4Ju1HmXBsDOsXSEHXlJGbJBJZOlboT9WOEKB6b1iskYTDpiicMdXDqBHs+GUJyggklJi9Emk2yDJH5F74RzY6IZS6WrA1jgGM8yYYQ= Received: by 10.141.33.21 with SMTP id l21mr700664rvj.1190001850722; Sun, 16 Sep 2007 21:04:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.114.2 with HTTP; Sun, 16 Sep 2007 21:04:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3f614d8e0709162104g1cc188ebh4a7c9dd917ea52f3> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 23:04:10 -0500 From: "Lance Link" To: babel-list Subject: Johnny MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ So is it a firm coffin or a sperm coffin? I've heard that its changed over time, not that its important, really, I know that its been writ in the Complete Works, but it seems that its always changed. What was the original text? From babel-list-owner Sun Sep 16 21:08:04 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8H483fu026517 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2007 21:08:03 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id l8H483Yo026516 for babel-list-obscured; Sun, 16 Sep 2007 21:08:03 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from imo-m20.mx.aol.com (imo-m20.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8H480oS026481 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2007 21:08:02 -0700 Received: from Poemsl1 by imo-m20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.2.) id m.c78.1da178a0 (42808) for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 00:08:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Poemsl1 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 00:08:00 EDT Subject: Re: Johnny To: babel-list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 165 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ I have always heard "sperm coffin". xxo- Seena ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From babel-list-owner Sun Sep 16 22:46:48 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8H5kmcU031200 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2007 22:46:48 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id l8H5kmJj031199 for babel-list-obscured; Sun, 16 Sep 2007 22:46:48 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8H5kiic031193 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2007 22:46:46 -0700 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b2so1045148nfb for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2007 22:47:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=sdhYm4Cnnfs2rW0kWVXr5SSmNbeBQHLXfwRnPhsldAE=; b=fyI/J9YEnV+tyZJO2fxYS0hn945BJ7Bbf4RS5MEVoqxORwXeqqqJCrBidDvKc+3i5FUZDfVM3v1cGvvI67HFVOgk5SJ+0acNR2U7uPzUKtK8pbJYRsyRimVt/8FiUjSj3kMImUUvoxBjW6i40y5yoDnL7EzzK5aPdQ8vTprn5Fw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ezL5AaVIJLZ3kEB0VV5zk10cRFxowyCV0pcmwE8RsD5yIntaKHJ7EU3aqp1iytkOpPL/OTQKndLbi+ZsMkfw8gStkGnAXsCxtAKnycJDdmJ+cPPp/rqXSFTnh+kSfBzuEdkRREshqgcqiWCmqSOWhsCKB6VhqzHkZgMDDytYwAQ= Received: by 10.78.149.15 with SMTP id w15mr2371915hud.1190008021473; Sun, 16 Sep 2007 22:47:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.123.19 with HTTP; Sun, 16 Sep 2007 22:47:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 01:47:01 -0400 From: "Tom Hosier" To: babel-list Subject: Re: Johnny In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" References: X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ I always thought it was "sperm coughin' ", like an involuntary spasm. On 9/17/07, Poemsl1 wrote: > > I have always heard "sperm coffin". xxo- Seena > > > > ************************************** See what's new at > http://www.aol.com From babel-list-owner Mon Sep 17 09:15:31 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8HGFVRK008320 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 09:15:31 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id l8HGFVho008319 for babel-list-obscured; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 09:15:31 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from web81706.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web81706.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.199.170]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with SMTP id l8HGFTbs008307 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 09:15:30 -0700 Received: (qmail 9035 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Sep 2007 16:09:12 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=ipv1UKUEsGN93+V64aIOkQ3PagRn+HCWeMup++Kh6sTluEjwnC8BoWqJ58SdFmCB9IVZwsyShiMBtLS9Tr5Q0CFKQ2dcQiRpGvH/XEeLbnRAlh6PtKWm+cJosQbUzRFZI9gREwJjrXDudbG+y/+XncQzFHu0rLLyNch86P71410=; X-YMail-OSG: 2l0sZmAVM1mfWwXf1mCFssaoIDhZU17l1dbp3CcEwVI41O4WKBs6joVxkKLCnCB8LkSrkqCqU14FFfXYhG61TYtVHBmcobPLyW24b4rIBuH0eN3TEOVNzqPdgojHMA-- Received: from [71.138.80.137] by web81706.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 09:09:12 PDT Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 09:09:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Li Lightfoot Subject: Re: Johnny To: Tom Hosier , babel-list In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <518704.8625.qm> X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ "Patti Smith Complete" says "sperm coffin" and she ought'ta know! Tom Hosier wrote: I always thought it was "sperm coughin' ", like an involuntary spasm. On 9/17/07, Poemsl1 wrote: > > I have always heard "sperm coffin". xxo- Seena > > > > ************************************** See what's new at > http://www.aol.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "My dear, let prayer become your beautiful Lover." Hafiz --------------------------------- Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more! 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From babel-list-owner Tue Sep 18 12:02:11 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8IJ2BBW002916 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 12:02:11 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id l8IJ2BKN002915 for babel-list-obscured; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 12:02:11 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from comcast-smtp-03.tampflrdc.rr.com (comcast-smtp-03.tampflrdc.rr.com [65.32.5.156]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8IJ29je002909 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 12:02:10 -0700 Received: from Bob2 (c-76-31-160-132.hsd1.tx.comcast.net [76.31.160.132]) by comcast-smtp-03.tampflrdc.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id l8IJ2Koc027459 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 15:02:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <001b01c7fa26$75246850$84a01f4c> From: "rslovacek" To: References: <3f614d8e0709162104g1cc188ebh4a7c9dd917ea52f3> Subject: Re: Johnny Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 14:02:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Hah, what a great List; you can say "sperm coffin" and everyone knows what you mean, WHEEEE!! From babel-list-owner Tue Sep 18 12:11:28 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8IJBS8D003338 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 12:11:28 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id l8IJBRnP003335 for babel-list-obscured; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 12:11:27 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from mx1.kronos.com (mx1.kronos.com [158.228.82.132]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8IJBG8w003316 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 12:11:19 -0700 X-WSS-ID: 0JOKVZC-01-3B6-01 Received: from Front-end2.KRONOS.COM (front-end2.kronos.com [158.228.2.30]) by mx1.kronos.com (Tumbleweed MailGate) with ESMTP id 8813C28DD1C; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 15:11:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from exchg-f.KRONOS.COM ([158.228.0.199]) by Front-end2.KRONOS.COM with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 18 Sep 2007 15:11:19 -0400 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: RE: Johnny Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 15:11:18 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <001b01c7fa26$75246850$84a01f4c> Thread-Topic: Johnny Thread-Index: Acf6JsH5ShAT/nHfTm21Q8Ph1pgxUQAAC32g References: <3f614d8e0709162104g1cc188ebh4a7c9dd917ea52f3> <001b01c7fa26$75246850$84a01f4c> From: "Gart, Mitchell" To: "rslovacek" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Sep 2007 19:11:19.0586 (UTC) FILETIME=[B1BB5020:01C7FA27] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by penguin.postmodern.com id l8IJBQ8w003326 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Years ago (Mitch scratches his gray beard) there was a big discussion on the list about "makes me come on like some heroin/e". Is it heroin the drug, or heroine as in female hero? About half the people on the list had heard it one way and half the other way. Personally I had always thought of the drug when hearing that lyric. The conclusion was that Patti, as an artist and a clever person, probably intended it that the lyric could work both ways, and enjoyed the ambiguity. Maybe this one is the same way. Personally I had always heard "sperm coffin" but if it works the other way for some people, so much the better. - Mitch -----Original Message----- From: owner-babel-list [mailto:owner-babel-list] On Behalf Of rslovacek Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 3:02 PM To: babel-list Subject: Re: Johnny Hah, what a great List; you can say "sperm coffin" and everyone knows what you mean, WHEEEE!! From babel-list-owner Tue Sep 18 12:01:16 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8IJ1Gu1002882 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 12:01:16 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id l8IJ1G6i002880 for babel-list-obscured; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 12:01:16 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from comcast-smtp-01.tampflrdc.rr.com (comcast-smtp-01.tampflrdc.rr.com [65.32.5.158]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8IJ1FCj002873 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 12:01:15 -0700 Received: from Bob2 (c-76-31-160-132.hsd1.tx.comcast.net [76.31.160.132]) by comcast-smtp-01.tampflrdc.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id l8IJ1PIC002484 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 15:01:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <001501c7fa26$54337c30$84a01f4c> From: "rslovacek" To: References: <3f614d8e0709162104g1cc188ebh4a7c9dd917ea52f3> Subject: Re: Johnny Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 14:01:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ "Sperm Coffin" for me too. That sounds funny :) "Switchblade to go!" ----- Original Message ----- From: Lance Link To: babel-list Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 11:04 PM Subject: Johnny So is it a firm coffin or a sperm coffin? I've heard that its changed over time, not that its important, really, I know that its been writ in the Complete Works, but it seems that its always changed. What was the original text? From babel-list-owner Tue Sep 18 12:56:22 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8IJuMjj005597 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 12:56:22 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id l8IJuMiY005596 for babel-list-obscured; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 12:56:22 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from comcast-smtp-01.tampflrdc.rr.com (comcast-smtp-01.tampflrdc.rr.com [65.32.5.158]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8IJuJPC005585 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 12:56:21 -0700 Received: from Bob2 (c-76-31-160-132.hsd1.tx.comcast.net [76.31.160.132]) by comcast-smtp-01.tampflrdc.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id l8IJuLqT003864 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 15:56:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <001901c7fa2e$01080190$84a01f4c> From: "rslovacek" To: References: <3f614d8e0709162104g1cc188ebh4a7c9dd917ea52f3> <001b01c7fa26$75246850$84a01f4c> Subject: Re: Johnny Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 14:56:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ They're called "Mondegreens". Check out http://www.physics.ohio-state.edu/~wilkins/writing/Resources/essays/mondegree ns.html "Misheard lyrics". You can add your own :) It's a fun site. As for the immediate question, I can hear it as being interchangebly "heroin" and "heroine", though the latter, I think, would be very dated for such a feminist/humanist as Patti. >>The conclusion was that Patti, as an artist and a clever person, probably intended it that the lyric could work both ways, and enjoyed the ambiguity. Maybe this one is the same way. Personally I had always heard "sperm coffin" but if it works the other way for some people, so much the better.<< Yah, I've read interviews with Robert Hunter saying that whenever a listener hears his lyrics differently than he'd written them, then that's just as valid as what he'd actually written. Which is a good thing, since the Dead, along with Dylan, are who I can hear saying different things than the "official" songbooks or lyrics-page says. Well, Dylan just changes the words all the time anyway, but still... My own classic Dead mondegreen is one I'll still swear by, thirty years later, from "The Wheel"; "If the Joker don't getcha then the Blind Man will", instead of the lyrics in the songbook, "If the Thunder don't getcha then the Lightning will". (I like mine better :) --Bob From babel-list-owner Tue Sep 18 13:21:00 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8IKL02T007788 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 13:21:00 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id l8IKL0AN007787 for babel-list-obscured; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 13:21:00 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from mx2.kronos.com (mx2.kronos.com [158.228.82.133]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8IKKweI007776 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 13:20:59 -0700 X-WSS-ID: 0JOKZ7K-02-DOS-01 Received: from Front-end1.KRONOS.COM (front-end1.kronos.com [158.228.2.31]) by mx2.kronos.com (Tumbleweed MailGate) with ESMTP id 7BE836C25CC; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 16:21:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from exchg-f.KRONOS.COM ([158.228.0.199]) by Front-end1.KRONOS.COM with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 18 Sep 2007 16:21:06 -0400 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: RE: Johnny Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 16:21:05 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <001901c7fa2e$01080190$84a01f4c> Thread-Topic: Johnny Thread-Index: Acf6MBgtiCXEw412T+uMU81NMqTpAgAARSMA References: <3f614d8e0709162104g1cc188ebh4a7c9dd917ea52f3> <001b01c7fa26$75246850$84a01f4c> <001901c7fa2e$01080190$84a01f4c> From: "Gart, Mitchell" To: "rslovacek" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Sep 2007 20:21:06.0058 (UTC) FILETIME=[71103EA0:01C7FA31] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by penguin.postmodern.com id l8IKKxeI007783 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Dylan has one that goes "I received your letter yesterday, about the time the doorknob broke" (Desolation Row). Somebody asked him once if the doorknob was the subject of the letter, or the letter was received at the same time the doorknob broke. He laughed at the questioner and wouldn't answer. - Mitch -----Original Message----- From: owner-babel-list [mailto:owner-babel-list] On Behalf Of rslovacek Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 3:56 PM To: babel-list Subject: Re: Johnny They're called "Mondegreens". Check out http://www.physics.ohio-state.edu/~wilkins/writing/Resources/essays/mond egree ns.html "Misheard lyrics". You can add your own :) It's a fun site. As for the immediate question, I can hear it as being interchangebly "heroin" and "heroine", though the latter, I think, would be very dated for such a feminist/humanist as Patti. >>The conclusion was that Patti, as an artist and a clever person, probably intended it that the lyric could work both ways, and enjoyed the ambiguity. Maybe this one is the same way. Personally I had always heard "sperm coffin" but if it works the other way for some people, so much the better.<< Yah, I've read interviews with Robert Hunter saying that whenever a listener hears his lyrics differently than he'd written them, then that's just as valid as what he'd actually written. Which is a good thing, since the Dead, along with Dylan, are who I can hear saying different things than the "official" songbooks or lyrics-page says. Well, Dylan just changes the words all the time anyway, but still... My own classic Dead mondegreen is one I'll still swear by, thirty years later, from "The Wheel"; "If the Joker don't getcha then the Blind Man will", instead of the lyrics in the songbook, "If the Thunder don't getcha then the Lightning will". (I like mine better :) --Bob From babel-list-owner Tue Sep 18 13:28:17 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8IKSHDi008536 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 13:28:17 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id l8IKSG9b008534 for babel-list-obscured; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 13:28:16 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from comcast-smtp-03.tampflrdc.rr.com (comcast-smtp-03.tampflrdc.rr.com [65.32.5.156]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8IKSDDK008513 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 13:28:14 -0700 Received: from Bob2 (c-76-31-160-132.hsd1.tx.comcast.net [76.31.160.132]) by comcast-smtp-03.tampflrdc.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id l8IKSHbK011680 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 16:28:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <009201c7fa32$76e11600$84a01f4c> From: "rslovacek" To: References: Subject: Re: Comparison of PS to documentarian Ken Burns (of all people?) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 15:28:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Hey, *I'M* an Eagle Scout! :-? :D Thanks, Seena. That's a pretty intriguing comparision, and one I might never have thought of. Actually I know someone for whom Patti was almost literally "the girl next door". At least they went to high school together :) Has anyone else been noticing a definite turn to the Nutty Right and the Fundamentalist cry for a right-wing theocracy for the USA on PBS lately? Or am I being just paranoid? PBS Alert: Tonight (or whenever, check your local listings, and it's prolly a Pledge Week thingie), http://pbs.org Willie Nelson, Merle Haggard, and RAY PRICE! 7pm in Houston, Ch. 8, KUHT --Bob From babel-list-owner Tue Sep 18 13:40:14 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8IKeED7009513 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 13:40:14 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id l8IKeEkd009512 for babel-list-obscured; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 13:40:14 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from comcast-smtp-01.tampflrdc.rr.com (comcast-smtp-01.tampflrdc.rr.com [65.32.5.158]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8IKeBsL009498 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 13:40:13 -0700 Received: from Bob2 (c-76-31-160-132.hsd1.tx.comcast.net [76.31.160.132]) by comcast-smtp-01.tampflrdc.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id l8IKeSg8028073 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 16:40:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <00b901c7fa34$2ad4c8e0$84a01f4c> From: "rslovacek" To: References: <3f614d8e0709162104g1cc188ebh4a7c9dd917ea52f3> <001b01c7fa26$75246850$84a01f4c> <001901c7fa2e$01080190$84a01f4c> Subject: Re: Johnny Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 15:40:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Well DANG them Grammarians!!!! ;) ----- Original Message ----- From: Gart, Mitchell To: rslovacek ; babel-list Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 3:21 PM Subject: RE: Johnny Dylan has one that goes "I received your letter yesterday, about the time the doorknob broke" (Desolation Row). Somebody asked him once if the doorknob was the subject of the letter, or the letter was received at the same time the doorknob broke. He laughed at the questioner and wouldn't answer. - Mitch From babel-list-owner Tue Sep 18 15:02:46 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8IM2kjH013874 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 15:02:46 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id l8IM2k7T013873 for babel-list-obscured; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 15:02:46 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from imo-m23.mx.aol.com (imo-m23.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.4]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8IM2ihx013859 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 15:02:45 -0700 Received: from Poemsl1 by imo-m23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.2.) id m.c65.1b3cf2d6 (29678) for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 18:02:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Poemsl1 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 18:02:39 EDT Subject: Re: Johnny To: babel-list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 165 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Patti, as we all know, is first and foremost a poet...... I have always felt that she wrote "heroine", but understood that some would hear "heroin" and that was just fine with her- that it was perfect for the two meanings to resonate and intertwine. xxo- Seena ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From babel-list-owner Wed Sep 19 01:45:24 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8J8jOkF011548 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 01:45:24 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id l8J8jObj011547 for babel-list-obscured; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 01:45:24 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from alnrmhc11.comcast.net (alnrmhc11.comcast.net [206.18.177.51]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8J8jMof011528 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 01:45:23 -0700 Received: from xyz (c-24-7-92-9.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.7.92.9]) by comcast.net (alnrmhc11) with SMTP id <20070919084526b1100ofgr5e>; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 08:45:27 +0000 Reply-To: From: "J" To: Subject: RE: Johnny Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 01:45:54 -0700 Message-ID: <002701c7fa99$7df8dbf0$6401a8c0> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6822 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Acf6QCbZNv056tvvSSazstalSnUavwAWSgqw Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by penguin.postmodern.com id l8J8jNof011542 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ I always heard it as "heroin". I think it makes more sense in the context of the song. J -----Original Message----- From: owner-babel-list [mailto:owner-babel-list] On Behalf Of Poemsl1 Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 3:03 PM To: babel-list Subject: Re: Johnny Patti, as we all know, is first and foremost a poet...... I have always felt that she wrote "heroine", but understood that some would hear "heroin" and that was just fine with her- that it was perfect for the two meanings to resonate and intertwine. xxo- Seena ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From babel-list-owner Wed Sep 19 04:20:51 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8JBKohY020060 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 04:20:51 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id l8JBKorW020059 for babel-list-obscured; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 04:20:50 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.67]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8JBKmqY020053 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 04:20:48 -0700 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=WkKw30XNetzcL4d4Fr8qdwzpdjS9AK15YHMIRydqTsm2Dn2XnIGHFQ2tlMm3GQCU; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [209.86.224.25] (helo=mswamui-backed.atl.sa.earthlink.net) by elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1IXxbs-0004N3-F8 for babel-list; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 07:20:48 -0400 Received: from 68.210.201.163 by webmail.atl.earthlink.net with HTTP; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 07:20:46 -0400 Message-ID: <13892727.1190200846399.JavaMail.root> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 07:20:46 -0400 (GMT-04:00) From: "Douglas W. Corkhill" Reply-To: "Douglas W. Corkhill" To: babel-list Subject: Re: Johnny Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: 1a787f6d8249ec5d9649176a89d694c0f43c108795ac4507cbdb44ba3b062ebd8f053bd0de3507be350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.25 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ I always thought it was sperm coffin, and sperm coughin' never entered my mind. I'll have to listen to the song again today (oh, darn!) with that in mind. Is sperm coughin' kind of like gagging? ;-) Doug From babel-list-owner Wed Sep 19 07:11:31 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8JEBVlD030664 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 07:11:31 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id l8JEBVmM030663 for babel-list-obscured; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 07:11:31 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from web81712.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web81712.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.199.176]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with SMTP id l8JEBR6l030650 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 07:11:30 -0700 Received: (qmail 82833 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Sep 2007 14:11:38 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=j1gr3KHF1JoqGzuMb9Jc0JQ2hOKCgJwMSpQC0k4X4iI7QAa1C/DYLQaj0wDYrTdq4zFfkUJ64MHsauNM4IenIk2AU0FIXisRRVr+igQUAYOi+bgBz6iuNj26gpCSrJvUJhr3YYOO5Ai2D5aSRpSZNnrsZ2dDAxo3tWjybx81gvw=; X-YMail-OSG: G_fQQA8VM1n8HwvaU71bfxCVSNpA4a9hOfIFop4U_p9mi6HsoN_euzuwrUKa7HhtOA-- Received: from [71.139.29.179] by web81712.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 07:11:38 PDT Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 07:11:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Li Lightfoot Subject: Re: Johnny To: babel-list In-Reply-To: <13892727.1190200846399.JavaMail.root> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <892115.82709.qm> X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ considering that Patti is first a poet, "sperm coffin" makes a lot of sense. 'Sperm' being the seed of life and a 'coffin' being the abode of death... well, there is a certain internal symmetry there, don't you think? just the sort thing a great poet might envision. very skillful. very apt. and I do believe it says, "life is filled with holes and Johnny's laying there in his sperm coffin Angel looks down at him and says "ah pretty boy...." seems pretty clear it was meant to be "coffin" as "Complete" has it. "Douglas W. Corkhill" wrote: I always thought it was sperm coffin, and sperm coughin' never entered my mind. I'll have to listen to the song again today (oh, darn!) with that in mind. Is sperm coughin' kind of like gagging? ;-) Doug ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "My dear, let prayer become your beautiful Lover." Hafiz --------------------------------- Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. From babel-list-owner Wed Sep 19 08:58:59 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8JFwxTm003806 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 08:58:59 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id l8JFwxIG003805 for babel-list-obscured; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 08:58:59 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from web33913.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33913.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.69.191]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with SMTP id l8JFwu6E003788 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 08:58:58 -0700 Received: (qmail 30230 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Sep 2007 15:59:03 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=dqc7iaj/ZZEnWmeRCPzTzJYutRRm82zECv8XJT/c75RGZpGWiuJo08eoY1AYPSH7TvbMFUghLixKRH8TexYqLT2HFY0rBllaBIDKF6rbrJYK6b61Ll+LLd4JCKmzU2wd55SOIFN8n0sSfi7UYD5oxqC5i0nAyiPw+9eHWH+3YbE=; X-YMail-OSG: UtTlDAQVM1kNc4Q3bQzj0zEh7a1gJgb10P_EUYJjtlz1Zj0tD94TyG_CVxQ17NvGCrhOAXyprGI3gg2lAVdsVmLO77Xj.TVTqdjrNIwmubpa62Y7KWZoHUqqonCY8Q-- Received: from [209.191.106.126] by web33913.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 08:59:03 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/651.50 YahooMailWebService/0.7.134 Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 08:59:03 -0700 (PDT) From: James Davidson Subject: Re: Johnny To: jlregister, babel-list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-ID: <362839.29572.qm> X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ I also hear it as heroin, especially considereing the times in which it was written and the people she was hanging out with......................Lou Reed...........................................Patti is experienced and aint no doubt about it. ----- Original Message ---- From: J To: babel-list Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 1:45:54 AM Subject: RE: Johnny I always heard it as "heroin". I think it makes more sense in the context of the song. J -----Original Message----- From: owner-babel-list [mailto:owner-babel-list] On Behalf Of Poemsl1 Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 3:03 PM To: babel-list Subject: Re: Johnny Patti, as we all know, is first and foremost a poet...... I have always felt that she wrote "heroine", but understood that some would hear "heroin" and that was just fine with her- that it was perfect for the two meanings to resonate and intertwine. xxo- Seena ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com _____________________________________________________________________________ _______ Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545469 From babel-list-owner Wed Sep 19 11:03:24 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8JI3Mk4012652 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 11:03:24 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id l8JI3MSG012647 for babel-list-obscured; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 11:03:22 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8JI3J1J012636 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 11:03:21 -0700 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 23so279177ugr for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 11:03:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=PQw9Uie7wkBuMVda7AubW3cEqxGjM9OmKE6vUFYLcmM=; b=RKdUxq3TK0gqVLms1KQhrKXxduzFGK9EYLd8JKjMNGUZWwigbwIsjnoHG0AKaw0//0t977LqZvJmPfxnCOyG2r77Laa8QgkclhjHwUO9MnTryHGPTxCQ0Nup5q60cYRZnU7ZLzOyUIg0fe8DcKtTR7SIbvthR1CYYjI7Jnkrz4g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=SjiRzbXXYgT2KPPe5bJ634YnMfTPTZj9TOyNrx1ovE2jOqwsBODqgQYO4IAjKw7xwmtX8EzdNc321R4b2vRKoxpkM9zKfpp9BcxGb0MlVPYTqARiCi9DUCeVolTrQHX/2SMZ57+hnaqO6U6qONHoqqYLSIFQZX8/q1NN9Znuhts= Received: by 10.78.156.6 with SMTP id d6mr614998hue.1190225017193; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 11:03:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.123.19 with HTTP; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 11:03:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:03:37 -0400 From: "Tom Hosier" To: babel-list Subject: Re: Johnny In-Reply-To: <892115.82709.qm> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" References: <13892727.1190200846399.JavaMail.root> <892115.82709.qm> X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ OK, my copy of "Complete" is in storage, but I concede. I had heard it as: "...Johnny's laying there, his sperm coughin '." On a similar note (talk dirty to me, Patti), is this the correct line in "Pissing In a River": Spoke of a wheel, Tail of a sperm...? That's how I've always heard it, but now I'm thinking I'm just a dirty old man ! On 9/19/07, Li Lightfoot wrote: > > considering that Patti is first a poet, "sperm coffin" makes a lot of > sense. 'Sperm' being the seed of life and a 'coffin' being the abode of > death... well, there is a certain internal symmetry there, don't you think? > just the sort thing a great poet might envision. very skillful. very apt. > and I do believe it says, > > "life is filled with holes and Johnny's laying there in his sperm coffin > Angel looks down at him and says "ah pretty boy...." > > seems pretty clear it was meant to be "coffin" as "Complete" has it. > > "Douglas W. Corkhill" wrote: > I always thought it was sperm coffin, and sperm coughin' never entered my > mind. I'll have to listen to the song again today (oh, darn!) with that in > mind. > > Is sperm coughin' kind of like gagging? ;-) > > Doug > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > "My dear, let prayer become your beautiful Lover." Hafiz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. From babel-list-owner Wed Sep 19 13:00:29 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8JK0SLc019157 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 13:00:28 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id l8JK0OAW019155 for babel-list-obscured; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 13:00:24 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from imo-d20.mx.aol.com (imo-d20.mx.aol.com [205.188.139.136]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8JK02jR019136 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 13:00:03 -0700 Received: from Lloyd5009 by imo-d20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.2.) id m.c79.1e384a03 (14467) for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 15:59:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Lloyd5009 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 15:59:49 EDT Subject: Re: Johnny To: Babel-list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5373 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Ok, "my bad" as the kids say...I always heard it as "Johnny's laying there...his sperm's hardening" LOL He's been laying there a long time. L. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From babel-list-owner Wed Sep 19 23:08:02 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8K682lB017939 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 23:08:02 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id l8K682fq017938 for babel-list-obscured; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 23:08:02 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from bay0-omc2-s12.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s12.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.148]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8K67sol017924 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 23:07:55 -0700 Received: from BAY103-W33 ([65.54.174.133]) by bay0-omc2-s12.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 19 Sep 2007 23:07:52 -0700 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Originating-IP: [71.227.143.252] From: michael hanson To: , Subject: RE: Johnny Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 06:07:53 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Sep 2007 06:07:52.0964 (UTC) FILETIME=[946D8440:01C7FB4C] X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ I've always heard "sperm coffin", but I hear heroin sometimes, heroine others.> From: Lloyd5009> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 15:59:49 -0400> Subject: Re: Johnny> To: Babel-list> > Ok, "my bad" as the kids say...I always heard it as "Johnny's laying > there...his sperm's hardening" LOL He's been laying there a long time.> > L.> > > > ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com _________________________________________________________________ Capture your memories in an online journal! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM&loc=us From babel-list-owner Thu Sep 20 00:14:33 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8K7EWYZ021981 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 00:14:32 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id l8K7EDbU021954 for babel-list-obscured; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 00:14:13 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from comcast-smtp-02.tampflrdc.rr.com (comcast-smtp-02.tampflrdc.rr.com [65.32.5.157]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8K7Dgod021879 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 00:13:46 -0700 Received: from Bob2 (c-76-31-160-132.hsd1.tx.comcast.net [76.31.160.132]) by comcast-smtp-02.tampflrdc.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id l8K7EK1T017922 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 03:14:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <001a01c7fb55$e0719300$84a01f4c> From: "rslovacek" To: References: Subject: Re: Johnny Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 02:14:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ no, it's... SPURN TOFFEE !!!! Non-chocolates of the World, UNITE! --Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: michael hanson To: lloyd5009 ; babel-list Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 1:07 AM Subject: RE: Johnny I've always heard "sperm coffin", but I hear heroin sometimes, heroine others.> From: Lloyd5009> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 15:59:49 -0400> Subject: Re: Johnny> To: Babel-list> > Ok, "my bad" as the kids say...I always heard it as "Johnny's laying > there...his sperm's hardening" LOL He's been laying there a long time.> > L.> > > > ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com _________________________________________________________________ Capture your memories in an online journal! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM&loc=us From babel-list-owner Thu Sep 20 00:19:34 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8K7JOA0022281 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 00:19:26 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id l8K7JIqP022278 for babel-list-obscured; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 00:19:18 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from bsmtp.bon.at (bsmtp.bon.at [213.33.87.14]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8K7JFwU022266 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 00:19:16 -0700 Received: from zech3 (unknown [80.120.109.134]) by bsmtp.bon.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4F1210026; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 09:20:10 +0200 (CEST) From: "Alice" To: "'Tom Hosier'" , References: <13892727.1190200846399.JavaMail.root> <892115.82709.qm> Subject: AW: Johnny Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 09:20:07 +0200 Message-ID: <001301c7fb56$ad1c70f0$6464a8c0> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acf66s/cOVsry2YHR1S6lSA1lYTrnQAa7TVA In-Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by penguin.postmodern.com id l8K7JGwU022272 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ It was "tip of a spoon" you dirty old man! ;-) Alice -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-babel-list [mailto:owner-babel-list] Im Auftrag von Tom Hosier Gesendet: Mittwoch, 19. September 2007 20:04 An: babel-list Betreff: Re: Johnny OK, my copy of "Complete" is in storage, but I concede. I had heard it as: "...Johnny's laying there, his sperm coughin '." On a similar note (talk dirty to me, Patti), is this the correct line in "Pissing In a River": Spoke of a wheel, Tail of a sperm...? That's how I've always heard it, but now I'm thinking I'm just a dirty old man ! On 9/19/07, Li Lightfoot wrote: > > considering that Patti is first a poet, "sperm coffin" makes a lot of > sense. 'Sperm' being the seed of life and a 'coffin' being the abode of > death... well, there is a certain internal symmetry there, don't you think? > just the sort thing a great poet might envision. very skillful. very apt. > and I do believe it says, > > "life is filled with holes and Johnny's laying there in his sperm coffin > Angel looks down at him and says "ah pretty boy...." > > seems pretty clear it was meant to be "coffin" as "Complete" has it. > > "Douglas W. Corkhill" wrote: > I always thought it was sperm coffin, and sperm coughin' never entered my > mind. I'll have to listen to the song again today (oh, darn!) with that in > mind. > > Is sperm coughin' kind of like gagging? ;-) > > Doug > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > "My dear, let prayer become your beautiful Lover." Hafiz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. From babel-list-owner Thu Sep 20 03:48:08 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8KAm7NE000325 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 03:48:08 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id l8KAm7qk000324 for babel-list-obscured; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 03:48:07 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from mail2.panix.com (mail2.panix.com [166.84.1.73]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8KAm6JE000316 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 03:48:07 -0700 Received: from panix2.panix.com (panix2.panix.com [166.84.1.2]) by mail2.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0711E3481C for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 06:48:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from spamtony) by panix2.panix.com (8.11.6p3/8.8.8/PanixN1.1) id l8KAmK226067 for babel-list; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 06:48:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200709201048.l8KAmK226067> Subject: "Gimme Shelter", too. To: babel-list Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 06:48:20 -0400 (EDT) From: "weapons of mass destruction-related program activities" Reply-To: spamtony (Anthony J. Rzepela) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5+IMAP PL8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ "Gimme Shelter" was done at the Beacon 09/14, also. Forgot about that one. From babel-list-owner Thu Sep 20 04:27:42 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8KBRfUF003349 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 04:27:41 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id l8KBRfVM003348 for babel-list-obscured; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 04:27:41 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.66]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8KBRdF7003338 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 04:27:40 -0700 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=da8rwrVcVgC6L1yW+MxgBfJwl4kW8CwtDvEeyTS+OsN/pNKgyOaSVbRd0jXukzj9; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Cc:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [209.86.224.25] (helo=mswamui-backed.atl.sa.earthlink.net) by elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1IYKCC-00028U-Dk; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 07:27:48 -0400 Received: from 74.227.196.86 by webmail.atl.earthlink.net with HTTP; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 07:27:48 -0400 Message-ID: <26160538.1190287668322.JavaMail.root> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 07:27:48 -0400 (GMT-04:00) From: "Douglas W. Corkhill" Reply-To: "Douglas W. Corkhill" To: babel-list Subject: Re: Johnny Cc: li_lightfoot Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: 1a787f6d8249ec5d9649176a89d694c0f43c108795ac450776767d015914f77c48094080c44d5669350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.25 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ >From: Li Lightfoot > >considering that Patti is first a poet, "sperm coffin" makes a lot of sense. 'Sperm' being the seed of life and a 'coffin' being the abode of death... well, there is a certain internal symmetry there, don't you think? just the sort thing a great poet might envision. very skillful. very apt. and I do believe it says, > > "life is filled with holes and Johnny's laying there in his sperm coffin > Angel looks down at him and says "ah pretty boy...." > > seems pretty clear it was meant to be "coffin" as "Complete" has it. Li, I love the symmetry, the symbolism, and the skillful writing. Yes, sometimes we forget Patti is a poet first. I agree with you. I had never thought of it as "coughin'" before this thread. Doug From babel-list-owner Thu Sep 20 05:11:48 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8KCBmkj005893 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 05:11:48 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id l8KCBmwX005892 for babel-list-obscured; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 05:11:48 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from mx2.kronos.com (mx2.kronos.com [158.228.82.133]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8KCBkgp005877 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 05:11:47 -0700 X-WSS-ID: 0JOO1VT-02-JUX-01 Received: from Front-end1.KRONOS.COM (front-end1.kronos.com [158.228.2.31]) by mx2.kronos.com (Tumbleweed MailGate) with ESMTP id 3D747676B48; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 08:11:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from exchg-f.KRONOS.COM ([158.228.0.199]) by Front-end1.KRONOS.COM with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 20 Sep 2007 08:11:51 -0400 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: RE: Johnny Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 08:11:51 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <26160538.1190287668322.JavaMail.root> Thread-Topic: Johnny Thread-Index: Acf7eaJE4Na2Jv8dSsKXPIqqJl3g2gABZd3g References: <26160538.1190287668322.JavaMail.root> From: "Gart, Mitchell" To: "Douglas W. Corkhill" , Cc: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Sep 2007 12:11:51.0578 (UTC) FILETIME=[6D418FA0:01C7FB7F] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by penguin.postmodern.com id l8KCBlgp005888 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ "Johnny's laying there his sperm coddling" works too. Webster's has a meaning for coddle: To cook (as eggs) in liquid slowly and gently just below the boiling point - Mitch -----Original Message----- From: owner-babel-list [mailto:owner-babel-list] On Behalf Of Douglas W. Corkhill Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 7:28 AM To: babel-list Cc: li_lightfoot Subject: Re: Johnny >From: Li Lightfoot > >considering that Patti is first a poet, "sperm coffin" makes a lot of sense. 'Sperm' being the seed of life and a 'coffin' being the abode of death... well, there is a certain internal symmetry there, don't you think? just the sort thing a great poet might envision. very skillful. very apt. and I do believe it says, > > "life is filled with holes and Johnny's laying there in his sperm coffin > Angel looks down at him and says "ah pretty boy...." > > seems pretty clear it was meant to be "coffin" as "Complete" has it. Li, I love the symmetry, the symbolism, and the skillful writing. Yes, sometimes we forget Patti is a poet first. I agree with you. I had never thought of it as "coughin'" before this thread. Doug From babel-list-owner Fri Sep 21 11:35:32 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8LIZWLi011730 for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 11:35:32 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id l8LIZVYf011729 for babel-list-obscured; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 11:35:31 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from comcast-smtp-01.tampflrdc.rr.com (comcast-smtp-01.tampflrdc.rr.com [65.32.5.158]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8LIZTpB011723 for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 11:35:30 -0700 Received: from Bob2 (c-76-31-160-132.hsd1.tx.comcast.net [76.31.160.132]) by comcast-smtp-01.tampflrdc.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id l8LIZk5U003572; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 14:35:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <001801c7fc7e$3d3ff8f0$84a01f4c> From: "rslovacek" To: Cc: References: <26160538.1190287668322.JavaMail.root> Subject: Re: Johnny Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 13:35:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Eggs....sperm.... Hmmm, we may have a winner! ----- Original Message ----- From: Gart, Mitchell To: Douglas W. Corkhill ; babel-list Cc: li_lightfoot Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 7:11 AM Subject: RE: Johnny "Johnny's laying there his sperm coddling" works too. Webster's has a meaning for coddle: To cook (as eggs) in liquid slowly and gently just below the boiling point - Mitch From babel-list-owner Sun Sep 23 01:18:00 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8N8HxqF030765 for ; Sun, 23 Sep 2007 01:17:59 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id l8N8Hx60030764 for babel-list-obscured; Sun, 23 Sep 2007 01:17:59 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.70]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8N8HvjE030755 for ; Sun, 23 Sep 2007 01:17:58 -0700 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=q/k1jL5iXIldDMnCbtE4p3Ig8ad072/+46szptyZLppy+dyCmvxW/q5cq8we6ArC; h=Received:Mime-Version:To:Message-Id:Content-Type:From:Subject:Date:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [208.120.146.213] (helo=[208.120.146.213]) by elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1IZMf2-0002Oz-BZ for babel-list; Sun, 23 Sep 2007 04:17:52 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) To: babel-list Message-Id: <0E03D213-45CD-440B-BE10-9ACA6F183333> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: liz dreams <88dreams> Subject: bad announcement of patti in L magazine before the beacon theatre show Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 04:17:52 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-ELNK-Trace: fcf9a7d452bb6e9d1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79b24eb6892665aadc063e76f4473a8222350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 208.120.146.213 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ i was perturbed to read in L magazine www.thelmagazine.com a posting about patti's upcoming gig at the beacon. i meant to post this when i read it, but have been busy with other things. the L magazine comes out of williamsburg, brooklyn, ny this issue was from sept 12th to the 25th, the L magazine i guess a mini version of the village voice, is at 20 Jay St ste 207 brooklyn, ny 11201 w/an e-mail addrs of info i do not know who wrote what i will state below, but the editor is jonny diamond, many contributors, and columnists, and an events and marketing manager named kathira romero, on page 75, under music, rock, pop, and hip-hop section it says beacon theatre 8pm patti smith and her band $25.00. and continues to say "you never want to talk smack about people like patti smith, because then you wind up sounding like an idiot, but she's playing just a few too many shows of late, as far as we're concerned. we'd rather she stay cloaked in mystery. hey L magazine...maybe you should get some new writers. the gig was great as all patti's show's are and who are u to say the above???? liz dreams http://www.liz.drgnlord.com http://www.myspace.com/offthegridmovie From babel-list-owner Sun Sep 23 04:15:30 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8NBFTsf008004 for ; Sun, 23 Sep 2007 04:15:29 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id l8NBFT6Z008003 for babel-list-obscured; Sun, 23 Sep 2007 04:15:29 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from imo-m24.mx.aol.com (imo-m24.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.5]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8NBFRUI007991 for ; Sun, 23 Sep 2007 04:15:28 -0700 Received: from Lloyd5009 by imo-m24.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.2.) id m.c26.1f083b1c (32915) for ; Sun, 23 Sep 2007 07:15:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Lloyd5009 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 07:15:16 EDT Subject: Re: bad announcement of patti in L magazine before the beacon theatre show To: Babel-list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5373 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Well hey anyone can say anything they want...who r u? LOL Not saying I agree, absolutely not! But I will say while watching Patti on The Early Show I couldn't help but think back to the day when she exhorted all us kids ( back when we were kids LOL) out there to boycott Don Kirshner's Rock Show. Everyday things change. Deal with it. L. PS Damn, I never did turn off Don. I guess that's way I even enjoyed watching Patti play up to morning tv hosts. But I did make it to NYC. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From babel-list-owner Sun Sep 23 05:05:37 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8NC5bqn017560 for ; Sun, 23 Sep 2007 05:05:37 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id l8NC5bmJ017559 for babel-list-obscured; Sun, 23 Sep 2007 05:05:37 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.6]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8NC5WRM017550 for ; Sun, 23 Sep 2007 05:05:36 -0700 Received: from [172.23.170.140] (helo=anti-virus02-07) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1IZQDM-0008DW-Nb for babel-list; Sun, 23 Sep 2007 13:05:32 +0100 Received: from [82.39.254.144] (helo=Nelson) by asmtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1IZPy7-00057S-Pt for babel-list; Sun, 23 Sep 2007 12:49:47 +0100 Message-ID: <000f01c7fdd7$d6ab1240$90fe2752> From: "Carol Green" To: Subject: Re: bad announcement of patti in L magazine before the beacon theatre show Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 12:49:46 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ "she's playing just a few too many shows of late" Did the person who wrote that say how many of the "too many" shows they had been to? If New Yorkers start becoming blase to Patti Smith then i suggest she comes to live in the UK - and she can play here EVERY night if she wants to - and anyone who says she is playing too many will be sentenced to the Bloody Tower amidst cries of "off with their head!" carol From babel-list-owner Sun Sep 23 05:58:33 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8NCwXkt019972 for ; Sun, 23 Sep 2007 05:58:33 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id l8NCwXJc019970 for babel-list-obscured; Sun, 23 Sep 2007 05:58:33 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from bsmtp.bon.at (bsmtp.bon.at [213.33.87.14]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8NCwUHm019961 for ; Sun, 23 Sep 2007 05:58:32 -0700 Received: from zech3 (unknown [80.120.109.134]) by bsmtp.bon.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id 815ECCDF84; Sun, 23 Sep 2007 14:58:23 +0200 (CEST) From: "Alice" To: "'Carol Green'" , References: <000f01c7fdd7$d6ab1240$90fe2752> Subject: AW: bad announcement of patti in L magazine before the beacon theatre show Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 14:58:21 +0200 Message-ID: <000a01c7fde1$6cfdf4c0$6464a8c0> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acf923ZvOgS5h7PGRuWKHHnXnW6TSQABbv/g In-Reply-To: <000f01c7fdd7$d6ab1240$90fe2752> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by penguin.postmodern.com id l8NCwXHm019966 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ And for a change of pace, she could play Z|rich, Munich & Innsbruck!!! That would make a lot of people very happy. (especially me :)!!) Alice -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-babel-list [mailto:owner-babel-list] Im Auftrag von Carol Green Gesendet: Sonntag, 23. September 2007 13:50 An: babel-list Betreff: Re: bad announcement of patti in L magazine before the beacon theatre show "she's playing just a few too many shows of late" Did the person who wrote that say how many of the "too many" shows they had been to? If New Yorkers start becoming blase to Patti Smith then i suggest she comes to live in the UK - and she can play here EVERY night if she wants to - and anyone who says she is playing too many will be sentenced to the Bloody Tower amidst cries of "off with their head!" carol From babel-list-owner Sun Sep 23 12:13:08 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8NJD85f024071 for ; Sun, 23 Sep 2007 12:13:08 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id l8NJD7D0024069 for babel-list-obscured; Sun, 23 Sep 2007 12:13:07 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from bay0-omc2-s28.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s28.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.164]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id l8NJD5w5024033 for ; Sun, 23 Sep 2007 12:13:05 -0700 Received: from BAY103-W22 ([65.54.174.122]) by bay0-omc2-s28.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 23 Sep 2007 12:13:41 -0700 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Originating-IP: [71.227.143.252] From: michael hanson To: Alice , "'Carol Green'" , Subject: RE: AW: bad announcement of patti in L magazine before the beacon theatre show Date: S